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This just in from the PROB...cycling lanes needed!!!(14 posts)

This just in from the PROB...cycling lanes needed!!!Cima
Sep 5, 2001 8:51 AM
The Boulder Daily Camera is reporting this morning that a study completed in 1997 has shown that 88+ miles of road are in need of bike lanes to protect the growing number of cyclists in Boulder County here in Colorado. This is great news, however is comes with a disclaimer. The roads in need will not get their bike lanes until they require resurfacing, and that will be completed on a case by case basis. So I guess we cyclists cannot have our cake and eat it too, right. Hopefully, other counties in Colorado and the rest of the US will follow suit.
Boulder and trafficalex the engineer
Sep 5, 2001 9:23 AM
Last time I was in Boulder (after having grown up there in the 60's), I was amazed at how cycling-friendly the town had become. The old business district had become a pedestrian mall, and those old wide side streets (I used to live on Spruce St.) were still fairly traffic-reduced. Has this all changed? Other than a climbing lane up the hill to my old grade school, I really didn't think that bike lanes would be needed.
Boulder's slightly different now. . .js5280
Sep 5, 2001 9:40 AM
Those wide streets like Spruce are now lined with photo radar vans. Okay, not really, but I still hate them yet have managed to dodge their revenue trap so far. P.R. Boulder's not a bad place to ride. I live in North Denver but work up on Valmont and Foothills. I commute in about 1-2 times/week (44 miles round trip) and it's generally enjoyable and all but about a mile of the roads have large shoulders, bike lanes, or bike paths. Hard to stay away from traffic now but at least you aren't fighting for the same lane.

Funny, a study from 4 years ago consititutes "news." Thanks Cima for the Larkspur update earlier, sounds like great riding.
Tell us how the ride Larkspur ride goes for you...Cima
Sep 5, 2001 9:54 AM
I wanted to participate, but I'm headed up to Trapper's Lake for a weekend's fly fishing instead.

Cima Coppi
Will do. . .js5280
Sep 5, 2001 10:49 AM
Definately will. Looking forward to it as it will be my first century ride and it sounds like what I expected terrain wise. Have a great time fly fishing, sounds like fun. Hope the weather cooperates for the both of us.
Best Rides around Boulder/Broomfield?Chris Zeller
Sep 5, 2001 2:31 PM
I'm living in Broomfield and I just bought a roadbike. Where are the best rides around Boulder? I've been doing some lunchtime rides along hw 128 to hw 93 to 170 and back McCaslin. Just about right for lunch. As a newbie to road biking wide shoulders are a premium of course. Cars grazing my left ear make me nervous :-)
Best Rides around Boulder/Broomfield?js5280
Sep 5, 2001 3:42 PM
Hi Chris,

I live fairly close to you, I'm about 112th and Federal. I ride through Broomfield commutting to Boulder and know some routes out that way. Also good stuff out east of I-25 and north of 120th, S. Platte River has paths that take you all over Denver. Drop me an email at john@wagers.net (work address) if your interested in more route details or want to ride some time. If memory serves, don't you have a Zepplin?
very little any morefullofit
Sep 6, 2001 7:19 AM
Mc Caslin is super dangerous these days and the old morgul bismarck course is pretty well ruined for cycling due to traffic. it'll only get worse. broomfield doesn't cowtow to cyclists as much as Boulder does and the urban sprawl is out of control there
I'm waiting for the City of Superior to level out The Wall....Cima
Sep 6, 2001 9:18 AM
so the soccer moms don't have to drive their mini-vans and Excursions up such a STEEP incline.

CC
Don't do that --that's the best part! nmChris Zeller
Sep 6, 2001 11:23 AM
sorry to sayColnagoFE
Sep 5, 2001 11:45 AM
Boulder's traffic is becoming more and more of a problem. I only ride routes like Olde Stage/Lee Hill, Lefthand canyon on the weekends now or early morns because of the traffic. Getting around town is usually not so bad as most routes have a bike lane or bike path as an alternative to riding the road. In general I think the attitude of motorists (and even the county sheriff to some extent) towards cyclists has gotten worse too.
re: This just in from the PROB...cycling lanes needed!!!ashleyrenfroe
Sep 5, 2001 12:11 PM
How I would like to believe that changes like that are coming soon. But most folks are just too damn lazy to "ride a kids toy". And America certainly is not ready tp give up the love affair with the Automobile. And I doubt OPEC is gonna be pushing for more cycling lanes...

Great thought though. Just a cycnical rider as I am ....
re: This just in from the PROB...cycling lanes needed!!!schwinnpro
Sep 5, 2001 2:58 PM
It's been great having the road to Lyons completed. But from there, you need to be careful. Especially if you head to Estes. Something needs to be done about the group rides though. I refuse to pay another ticket(ive received 2 on the bustop rides). Maybe the local police could follow us around with the lights on!!
Some perspective......Peetey
Sep 5, 2001 3:08 PM
Some perspective. If you look at the table that is included in the article, you see the number of reported accidents from 1990 to 2000 (10 years!!) for each of the selected roadways with the average daily bike count (275). One of the worst places is Lee Hill to Olde Stage with four accidents for the 10 years. Factoring in the average daily bike count and extending that to 10 years we get about 1 million bikes passing that point over the 10 years (275*365*10). Four reported accidents per one million!! 0.0004%.

I'll like it when we get the bike lanes, but it does seem like we should be happy with the wonderful bicycling environment we have.