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Hey guys, got my new Pegoretti!(15 posts)

Hey guys, got my new Pegoretti!bill
Sep 3, 2001 5:50 PM
I have been building it up slowly over the past few weeks -- never having done it before, I had to allow stupidity to take it's natural course (everything went fine by the way; it can be done!), and I took my sweet time.
Finally rode that bad boy on Saturday. Because I did, after all, build it myself, I was reluctant to go far from home, so that it wasn't a long test, but the ride is everything I'd hoped for. Stiff, solid, turns like a mutha, fabulous. The ol' Litespeed jumps in and out of bumps, with the rear sometimes losing it's track. I don't know if the difference is material, tube design, or balance, but the Pegoretti seems to have a suspension system. Maybe all higher-end bikes are like this, but this one's mine and I'm a happy guy.
Things I learned:
Unlike titanium, paint chips. It really does. Drop a tool, and you're looking at primer. Sucks. Gotta get some touchup paint.
If you don't know what you're doing, read the instructions, and don't try to do it all at once. I would do one or two things a night. Then I would have a chance to reflect on what I did, understand it, and sometimes go back and do it again because I didn't process or execute a step properly.
Useful tools included a torque wrench and Park's third and fourth hand tools. Weenie tools? Sure. Work miracles? No, but they work, and they help substitute for feel and experience.
READ THE INSTRUCTIONS. Each box of the campy rig came each with its own set of complete instructions, which were invaluable. With reading (and re-reading) of the instructions, even a shmo like me can build up a bike (the only thing I didn't do was press the headset, and the BB had been faced and prepped).
The setup:
Pegoretti steel frame, Mizuno CF fork (carbon steerer), Record 10 sp. drivetrain, controls, headset, and pedals, Chorus 12-25 cassette, Zepp stem. ITM Millenium bars. Chorus ti seatpost. Nucleon wheels.

Am I a poser, or what?

Many thanks to Matthew Cazzaniga of Tiramisu Imports, http://www.tiramisu.co.uk. Check him out. He has some geat prices, but, most of all, he gave a lot of support for a guy across the pond. I must say that it TOOK a while (almost 5 months), but I wasn't in a hurry. I had to save my pennies, anyway.
The paint is simple but rich and elegant. I mucked it up with some marbled bar tape, but I'll be changing that soon. There is a dopey shield on the down tub from Dedacchai (sp?), who made the tubing, which is already coming off. Not that I really know what I'm looking at, but the welds are nice, small and neat (I have heard welds described as "miraculous;" these aren't miraculous, but they're, you know, nice).
Thanks for listening.
I'm jealous!!! :-)Live Steam
Sep 3, 2001 6:05 PM
Which frame is it? I think I am saving my pennies for the Great Googoolee Moogoolee. You gotta love a frame builder that digs Zappa :-)
I'm jealous!!! :-)DINOSAUR
Sep 3, 2001 6:32 PM
Curious as to what frame also: I've been lusting over the CCKMP. Question of the day, does anyone know what that means? (I do).........
Hey Dino you can ask them!Live Steam
Sep 3, 2001 6:39 PM


They actually use that as an example for info you can get directly from them if you ask via email. Why don't you do that and report back. I am currious too :-)
CCKMP=DINOSAUR
Sep 3, 2001 7:52 PM
CCKMP= Cocaine cannot kill my pain- Steeve Earl

Cocaine cannot kill my pain
Like a freight train through my vein
Cocaine cannot kill my pain
Whiskey got no hold on me
Left them chains in Tennessee
Whiskey got no hold on me

Don't come knockin' on my door
Even that won't work no more
Don't come knockin' on my door

Heroin is the only thing
The only gift the darkness brings
Heroin in the only thing

Guess you'd best leave me alone
At least until these blues have gone

Guess you'd best leave me alone

Now try and figure what Great Googoolee Moogoolee means!
No cheating!
Great Caesars Ghost!!! Holy Cow!!!! My God!!!Live Steam
Sep 4, 2001 6:23 AM
I guess it's sort of the same. Coined by the late great Howlin' Wolf - Chester Arthor Burnett - a legandary electric blues man that was most popular during the lated 50s and 60s. He developed the original electric twang that Zappa and many rockers, even Elvis were influenced by.
Howlin Wolf was a great bear of a man, well over six feet tall,bill
Sep 4, 2001 6:44 AM
approaching 300 lbs, who, legend has it, included in his act climbing up stage curtains, singing (or, in his case, growling) the whole time.
...and it's actually Googley Moogley . Not sure whyLive Steam
Sep 4, 2001 7:20 AM
they changed the spelling for the frame. It's still cool though. Steel frame with oversized tubing and integrated head set. Must be a plush ride!
...and it's actually Googley Moogley . Not sure whyDINOSAUR
Sep 4, 2001 8:29 AM
It's the Great Googley Moogley, Mojo Nixon, Skid Roper, mid 80's. Most of the Mojo Nixon stuff I located is on LP's. I guess this guy goes back a long way. I listened to some of the cuts the are on cd's on amazon.com. Cool stuff if you like the blues.

Interesting on the CCKMP, I had no idea. it blew my mind (pun intended)

Italian frame builder who names his bikes after phrases out of american music, cool idea....

I learned all this stuff over at the VeloNews forum where I had posted a question about Pegoretti.
I got the Marcelo. It is almost the same as the Custom reviewedbill
Sep 4, 2001 6:20 AM
in the May, 2000 Bicycling Magazine, as distributed by Gita. For reasons unknown to me, the Marcelo does not seem to be imported by Gita, which is, I understand, the importer and nationwide distributor for Pegoretti (there are a few stores that sell Pegoretti, but I think that they all buy through Gita). Same tubing dimensions, but the boron steel used is of a slightly different grade (slightly lighter) and the fork is carbon, the headset is threadless.
I feel some need to respond to my chortling brother down this thread. Yeah, I felt like a jerk chipping the paint, and yes, it took one heck of a long time to build up. On the other hand, I knew that some things were going to go wrong, and I factored that in to my decision to build the bike myself. It was not a money savings or a time savings move. Heck, Matthew at tiramisu was willig to build it up for me. Building unquestionably took a lot longer and cost a lot more than having the bike built; I knew that going in. I weighed the negatives of cost and time against the knowledge, experience, and satisfaction I would gain, and I'm pretty happy with my decision. I broke nothing that can't be fixed (yet -- having a wee bit of trouble getting the headset adjusted right).
I would hope that my experience would encourage anyone else facing the same decision to take this rite of passage in this sport I have come to love (it's my midlife crisis; as I explained to my wife, it's either gonna be another cold bike, one extra, or another warm body, one extra -- not really, but you get my drift).
You'll know whether you have the desire and patience to do it. If you do, do it, because desire and patience are all it really takes, simple as that. I'll never do it as well or as fast as the guys who do it for a living, but that wasn't the point.
Have a good ride, all!
It is a great way to learn about your bike andLive Steam
Sep 4, 2001 6:32 AM
how to fix it on your own. You did the right thing! I know a lot of guys who ride a ton but can't put a wrench to their ride. If something's wrong with their bike they have to schlep it to the shop. What a waste of time. It's like the guy who wants to own a Harley, but knows nothing about mechanics. The bike is usually parked in the garage more than out on the road because he can't fix what's wrong himself. I guess Harleys are more dependable these days, but a vintage Harley or British sports car needs personal attention! I think wrenching is part of the fun in any hobby.
hoo hooNiwot
Sep 3, 2001 6:10 PM
Brand new frameset gets a tool dropped on it and chips the paint. Nice move! Hee hee har hah ha. Who sez it doesn't pay to have a shop do the builds? espec if you don't know what you're doing. Oh well, better luck next time. BTW, I can't believe you took weeks to build it up- I woulda had that sucker out on a ride the next day.
Above post not by me. nmNiwot
Sep 3, 2001 7:05 PM
nm
RE:hoo hooRasta
Sep 3, 2001 7:52 PM
What a schmuck!
hoo hoocycleguy
Sep 4, 2001 4:23 AM
Nothing better then learning how to build your own bike and then repair it. I took the same path a few months ago and rebuilt an old frame with a new group. All the things you said apply. Correct tools, read instructions, go slow, use common sense. It's not rocket science and may take us non lbs employees a little longer but thats OK!