|Advice For First Double Century||buck|
Sep 3, 2001 3:59 PM
|Got my first attempt at a double coming up this weekend. Just interested in any advice from experienced doublers out there. I've gotten plenty of centuries in this year, all between 4:45 and 5:20. I like to go fast and know how to take advantage of a good group :). I understand my eating and drinking requirements well. My longest ride was this past weekend at 130. I rode it at a faster pace than I anticipate doing the double and was all alone for the last 80 miles. Still felt pretty good afterwards. I hope it was enough. Do most long distance riders at these events work as a group or prefer to go it solo? There probably will only be 10-15 of us on the double course. I've got very limited time on the aerobars and am considering leaving them at home. Are they pretty much a requirement on these longer rides? Total climbing will be about 9000 feet. What other problems pop up after the first 125 or so? I already know I will be battling hotspots (they weren't a problem until about 110 and then, Oh Boy!) and also some "friction" issues in the nether regions. I figure I will pack extra balm and re-lube when needed. Anything stand about the first time you crossed the 200 mile mark?|
|re: Advice For First Double Century||badabill|
Sep 3, 2001 5:40 PM
|My first double was an easy flat course (Hemet CA.). While my century time is just about the same as you I tend to really slow up on doubles, Still working on breaking 13hrs. Depending on the course I try to do the first 100 in around 6hrs, then I try to take a small break off the bike every 30mi. or so to stretch.Sometimes even taking my shoes off to air the feet. For me a heart rate moniter is a must,climbing I try to keep mry HR in an eazy zone (130-140 if possible). Working with other riders is allways a big help, But dont over do it to stay with group. After 120mi or so I seem to zone out all those little aches and just pedal, allmost like catching a second wind.It sounds like you are ready, ride with in yourself and dont treat it like a race and you should do fine.|
|birmingham 9/8? see you there...||Spiritual Haiku|
Sep 4, 2001 5:53 AM
|so will our friendly co-poster "12x23"...from what i've read here, i'll see you only at the start (you'll soon be up the road). :-)
i'm riding the 125 (~4400 ft).
|birmingham 9/8? see you there...||buck|
Sep 4, 2001 5:56 AM
|That's the one. Where are you guys coming from? Have you done the ride before? The double has a 4 am start. Maybe I'll see you guys at the end.|
Sep 4, 2001 6:35 AM
|i'm coming from memphis, 12x23 is coming from someplace in GA, i think, don't remember...we both rode the chattanooga 3 state/3 mountain century in may, missed meeting each other face-to-face by less than 10 yards. i think he's riding the 125, also.
forgot the double was 4 am! that'll be fun. ugh.
tell me about the route.
|no, no, no . . . .||12x23|
Sep 4, 2001 3:57 PM
|coming from NE Al. Yes, to the double metric. See you there; rain (probably will), sleet, snow, hail, or other.|
|My advice would be...||MrCelloBoy|
Sep 4, 2001 8:13 AM
|leave the aerobars at home. You sound well prepared for this ride. As par as pacing, I'd ride with groups as much as possible unless their pace is either way too slow or is too fast to maintain comfortably. If it takes a small push to keep up it may be worth it, but not if you're straining to keep up.
I had a clean pair of shorts waiting for me at lunch. This can really feel good!
It sounds (from your times) that you aren't having a problem getting in and out of rest stops quickly.
|you'd be ok||cyclopathic|
Sep 4, 2001 10:16 AM
|even if you bonk you'll be ok just slow down and eat.
Some real food (not Powerbar, Gu, Shots or PB&J) helps to get back on track.
my biggest issue above 125mi mark was the shorts. Turned out chamois was not big enough and caused chaffing in area outside from saddle contact. I switched to Voler and never had problems since.
I mostly ride alone (it hard sometimes to find good match), but if you can get in paceline and draft things would be a bit faster. Unless course is really flat or climbs are very gradual there wouldn't be a big group, so find 2-3 guys you'd be comfortable to ride with or use aerobars if alone good luck
|re: Advice For First Double Century/Rookie,but....||TC|
Sep 4, 2001 11:27 AM
|I did one earlier this summer and was in the same situation as you are as far as speed and prior distances. Just 2 of us for the most part. Drop the aero-bars IMO! Drank some Ensure Plus and that was really helpful. One around every 50-60 miles. Great source of protein and calories. It's a must with the extra clothes. I packed an entire 2nd kit. That was one real good feeling to put on clean clothes at the 1/2 way point.
If possible take an extra set of wheels, Endurox and all the same 'ol same 'ol on drinking and eating! We ended up doing 212 and around 160, the endorphins kicked in and we were going to make it one way or the other. Started at 5:30am and got done around 8:00 with 11 1/2 hours of riding time. we probably stopped too long on 2 occasions, but with only 2 of us we had to pace a lot more than a group would've.
Check out www.ultracycling.com for some good info!