Aug 31, 2001 2:06 PM
|I am preparing to purchase a Colnago Master XL. I was wondering about fork chioces. I had the full carbon flash recomended. I was considering the stock steel fork. I weigh 180 lbs. I am also choosing groupos. I am between record and chorus. I will probably go record. Any comments would be welcome. I have also noticed frames and groupos are considerably cheaper in the UK. I looked at www.sdeals.com and a full chorus master xl was ~$2100. Has anyone or would anyone consider buying a bike from the UK. I am a little worried about shipping the frame built up. Any one with experiance with sdeals or buying a frame from a European shop could I get your input. You know what happens to packages that ship overseas. Comments welcome.|
|Colnago? Never heard of it||mr_spin|
Aug 31, 2001 2:27 PM
|I ordered wheels from the UK. Got a great price, but I had to come up with an additional $30 in customs fees that I wasn't expecting. I suspect it is a percentage of the cost, so try to figure it out and be ready for the extra hit. Other than that, it was painless, so I'd do it again.|
|Colnago? Never heard of it||zzz|
Aug 31, 2001 8:59 PM
|duty is 6% on goods from europe|
|re: Colnago ?||ColnagoFE|
Aug 31, 2001 2:39 PM
|I have a 62cm MXL and love it. Have you been fitted for the bike? Make sure it fits you first. I weigh 195 and it is plenty stiff. Just about perfect stiffness for me. I went for 10 speed Chorus on mine (with Kind headset, record hubs). Really no functional difference between that and Record other than a few ounces in weight. Spend the money you save on the carbon fork which will lighten up the bike a lot more than Record group would. I have the Flash fork and think it's well balanced for the bike. Stiff.|
|forks, knives and spoons||Tig|
Aug 31, 2001 2:44 PM
|Such a great frame deserves a good fork. Forget the heavy steel fork and go with the carbon. It will complement the comfortable ride. I've had steel forks on steel bikes and they worked fine, but that was before the superior carbon ones were made.
I don't mind buying smaller, cheaper items from Europe, but would likely stick to the US for frames or built bikes. Call me paranoid!
|re: Colnago ?||buzzkill|
Aug 31, 2001 3:15 PM
|I bought a wheelset from Ireland www.totalcycling.com and my campy record group from Italy www.zonabici.com. Not a bad experience with either one. Saved money as well. You can always expect a few extra charges though. Credit cards sometimes add currency conversion charges which is a real load of crap. Don't put too much stock into what I have to say but if you are already going to spend the money, spend the extra hundreds of dollars and go for the record. I used to ride shimano ultegra and absolutely love my new group. Just costs so much more.|
|Agree. Spend a little extra and buy Record now! nm||Dog Breath|
Aug 31, 2001 3:18 PM
|Consider www. totalcycling.com.||Dog Breath|
Aug 31, 2001 3:16 PM
|Almost every Italian frame get shipped over from Europe for either the consumer or the US importer. I suspect the proper shop will pack the frame better just as well or better than the mfgr.
US import duty on framesets is only 3.9%.
see http://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff2001.asp. Use
bicycle in the search box.
|Consider www. totalcycling.com.||Dogsh#|
Aug 31, 2001 3:34 PM
|Don't listen to Dog Breath, he is a real A@#hole. That is why his breath stinks. He licks his own a$$ all day.|
|A Dog's Breath||Dog Breath|
Aug 31, 2001 3:49 PM
|The breath is from cheap beer and tobacco smoke.
I have tried that other thingy, but am not quite that flexable. I get Litespeed riders to attend to that function thank-you.
Aug 31, 2001 5:12 PM
|I've seen Dog Breath's posts on the Photo Gallery and do feel that they sometimes cross the line into unnecessary bike-bashing. However, he does seem to be knowledgeable about bikes and has been posting some pretty useful information on the message board, imho. Perhaps if Dog Breach can resist the temptation to bait Litespeed owners, Litespeed owners and others offended by his past comments can let bygones be bygones and we can welcome a new member to the board. Just a suggestion.|
|A Dog's Breath||cycleguy|
Aug 31, 2001 11:34 PM
|"The breath is from cheap beer and tobacco smoke.
I have tried that other thingy, but am not quite that flexable."
What's the difference.
|re: Colnago ?||AD14|
Aug 31, 2001 5:48 PM
|I just built up a custom foco frame and the ride is so much better than my masterlight. The lighter foco soaks up road irregularities unbelievably well. In addition the reynolds ouzo all carbon is a big improvement over the harsh steel fork. Do yourself a favor and get a foco or 853 bike. To top it all off the foco is at least as stiff as the colnago. The 55cm ctoc frame with waterbottle screws weighed in at 3 pounds 5 ounces. The only thing I will miss is the paint job. Enjoy whatever you buy.|
|tell me more about the Foco tubed frame||Tig|
Aug 31, 2001 6:23 PM
|I haven't heard any reviews about the Foco tubes on a frame. I wasn't sure if a frame using them would be too flexible or maybe too thin-walled to be durable. Any observations with the ride would be appreciated. Also, what model is this bike?|
|tell me more about the Foco tubed frame||Mike|
Aug 31, 2001 6:43 PM
|I also am on a Foco frame, after having ridden an EL-OS frame for five years. I'm 175 and have not noticed any more flex with Foco than I did with EL. I went from a Columbus steel fork to carbon with Foco and really enjoy the ride. The word is that Foco is somewhat more prone to damage in crashes, but I hope not to be testing that hypothesis any time soon.|
|tell me more about the Foco tubed frame||AD14|
Sep 1, 2001 7:35 AM
|The foco is plenty stiff. The tubes are manipulated so that the bottom bracket is stiff but the ride is great. The only weakness is the tubes are thin enough to dent like aluminum. If you like steel this tubeset is a major improvement over my old colnago.|
|sounds like are due for a name change nm||CT1|
Sep 2, 2001 10:08 PM
|sounds like are due for a name change nm||AD14|
Sep 3, 2001 5:06 AM
|Very astute CT1. The color of the new frame is sort of copper(metallic). I may go with the recent trend and go for a name of an animal.|
|my rule of thumb||Jack S|
Sep 3, 2001 10:22 AM
|steel bike- steel fork... carbon, alu, ti bike- carbon fork. for full carbon forks (steerer and blades), big guys need not apply. (also goes for those more worried about durability and longevity)|| |