|I gotta stop using the F word ...||Humma Hah|
Aug 30, 2001 6:14 PM
|... you guys know the four-letter word I mean, starts FLA and ends with T.
As most here already know, I've used the word with no fear of retaliation by the cycling gods for years, decades even. I rolled over glass chips, slammed potholes, comfortable that my ancient thorn-resistant tubes would shrug off anything short of roofing nails. I got one f### in 27 years using the same tubes.
Until July. On an errand, I picked up roofing nail #2 in the life of the tubes. Ah, well, can't stop everything.
Then, a week or two later, I picked up my first glass f###, a long glass chip. Then, two days later, I discovered that tire f### again: the ancient stem had finally failed, spurred on by the wrenching of pumping.
So I put in a brand-new thorn-resistant tube. I had to take what I could get, and it was a 26 x 1.5-2.1 size, actually a scant 1.5 that fit loosely in the 1 3/4" tire casing. That means it was stretched when under pressure, something I never trust because it makes any hole open up. I Slimed the tube for good measure.
So yesterday, as dusk fell, 2 miles from home, I evidently hit a grey piece of wire on the grey pavement. I heard it zing off, and an instant hiss, as the brand new tube lost pressure in about 15 seconds. I found a 2" long piece of wire in the tube, bent 90 degrees, that had penetrated both at the crown and bead. Slime ooze all over the place.
I've now got a second new tube, properly sized, in the tire. The tube is Slimed. I'm considering putting in a Kevlar armor belt. And I'm not gonna use the F word any more.
I wonder how many F's I've got save up from 27 years of pushing my luck?
|re: I gotta stop using the F word ...||I Love Shimano|
Aug 30, 2001 6:30 PM
|It's probably just your yearly bout with bad luck. It'll soon fade out and you can keep on saying FLAT once more. No more #### characters when you want to say FLAT. You can even put in the word FLAT into every sentece you say. Right flat? Ok, I think FLAT I've FLAT said FLAT enough.|
|Mr. T says: "I pitty the fool who uses the F word too much".||look271|
Aug 30, 2001 6:42 PM
|Well, he may not have said it, but BOY, are you asking for trouble! The gods will be MOST dis-pleased! :-)|
|I've put 5200 miles with no flats...||Bruno|
Aug 30, 2001 7:11 PM
|I don't know whats the deal. I've gone through 4 sets of tires of different brands, sizes (20 & 23) and from expensive to cheap. The explanation I have is that the streets of San Diego are very clean and I do not let the tires wear down too much (5200/4=1300) I also put the correct tire pressure every 2-3 days. About 110psi.|
|That's likely part of it ...||Humma Hah|
Aug 30, 2001 8:08 PM
|... I put in 2.5 years riding in San Diego, but the f###s started after moving back to Northern Virginia.
The old tubes have an estimated 13,000 miles on them, call it 6500 miles between f###s until the luck got really foul. Much of that mileage was at Virginia Tech, where glass f###s were common but other road debris, like nails, seemed to be relatively rare.
|I've put 5200 miles with no flats...||badabill|
Aug 30, 2001 9:24 PM
|I ride the same SD roads with a flat about every 500 miles or so. Usually glass but have picked up nails, screws, and staples. Depends on your route, and the condition of the roads you ride nore than anything else. Oh and the goathead thorns in the scripps ranch, poway area allways seems to get me :-)|
|you are way ahead of the game||Dog|
Aug 30, 2001 7:24 PM
|I average one about every 300 miles; it gets expensive.
But, and I really hate to say this out loud (knock), I've not had any with Tufo tubulars or the tubular clinchers. I think the rubber is so hard on them that they just don't pick stuff up. It's a theory. But, they don't grip very well.
I don't think they make them in 1.5" though.
I'd say you are due for about 1,000 f's. You've beat the odds tremendously.
|One every 300 miles, that explains it ...||Humma Hah|
Aug 30, 2001 8:14 PM
|... here I was so proud of myself for cranking my riding miles up! Its those 140-190 mile weeks that are doing it! I did 148 last week, am aiming for a little over 150 this week, next week should top 225. So a f### every two weeks is about right.|
|Keep saying it : FLAT||char|
Aug 30, 2001 8:41 PM
|You are overdue in your flat experience. You are now relegated to Flatland. No 3 dimensional escape.
I get flats on the average of 1 per week and that's riding and commuting in the Bay Area (CA). Some weeks are none, others are 2-3. My take is change them as fast as possible, kind of like a challenge, same as how fast to make it up (or down) that hill. Of course, as soon as you stop, there is no wind chill and all the sweat drips stinging in your eyes and blindly you grab for the tire levers and just rip the tire off...It's really no big deal, I come across people who are a little bit mechanically challenged when faced with a flat, it's too painful to even watch.
|Please remove this thread||Mike|
Aug 30, 2001 8:47 PM
|You guys are going to jinx us all. On second thought, maybe by talking about it, you'll increase your allocation and decrease the number the rest of us receive. Man, now I don't know what to think. All I know is that if I have to break out the tire irons tomorrow morning, there'll be hell to pay. ;-)|
|NC roads must be much cleaner ...||bianchi boy|
Aug 31, 2001 4:29 AM
|I've had one F*** in 5700 miles over the past year, most of those miles on rural and suburban NC roads. I don't know what I'm doing right, but I hope to keep it up. During that time, I've used several different brands of tires -- Michelin Axial Pros, Panaracers, Conti GP 3000s, Performance Kevlar -- so I can't credit it to the tires. I will say that the one F*** I had was when I installed some Michelin ultra-lite tubes. I took them off when I fixed the flat and will never consciously buy ultra-lite tubes again. Why bother for the measly weight gain? I also am religious about keep my tire pressure pumped up to 110-120 lbs.|
|re: I gotta stop using the F word ...||Chas|
Aug 31, 2001 8:49 AM
|I had four ####'# in 1000 miles using Conti Ultra 3000's. |
Switched to Specialized Armadillo's and have not had one for the last 1100 miles.
The armadillo's felt kind of hard and heavy at first but the've smoothed out real good with a few miles of wear.