Aug 30, 2001 3:48 PM
|Well, it's time to get new tires, the 3 choices I am trying to decide between are Michellin Axial Pros, Continetial Grand prix, and grand prix 3000's. If anybody can give me any recommendations I would really apprieciate it. Thanks!|
|Axial Pros||Vlad the Impaler|
Aug 30, 2001 3:56 PM
|I've put nearly 1600 miles on my Axial Pros and have only had one flat (on about the 4th mile of the 1600). I like the way they ride and for me they seem pretty durable. That said, I've heard horror stories of them flatting a lot. I'd buy them again. For what it's worth I weigh about 140#.|
Aug 30, 2001 3:57 PM
|Okay, here are the generalizations on the two brands. Continentals have more meat on the tread, and you may get more mileage from that. The Contis are susceptable to sidewall cuts and tears and I have seen a few die early from that. The Grand Prix 3000's are pretty much a race only tire, and so don't count on huge mileage. Conti's also have a pretty tight bead on some rims. The Michelins are known for good ride quality and supple feel. They are more susceptable to cuts from road debris than the Contis. They are also a race tire, so expect 1500 or so miles, or maybe less before their time has passed. They are all pretty good tires. Just buy the ones you can get the best deal on and use them up. For training, you may want to look at models one or two down on the lineup for better mileage and flat resistance.|
Aug 30, 2001 5:40 PM
|Could not have said it better.|
Aug 30, 2001 4:36 PM
|I have been on the Continetails for 2 years. I have used the Grands and the 3000's. The Grands last about 1200-1500 miles with few flats. I have about 800 miles on the 3000's now. The only problem that I have had is the side walls strated to fray on the last set of Grands and on the 3000's. I have not riden the Axials. I will look into a differnt brand next time. I have been told that the Vittoria hold up better for bigger riders. I'm 185lb and 6'.|
Aug 30, 2001 4:57 PM
|I've ridden Continentals exclusively since '89. My favorite performance clincher is the Grand Prix foldable. For a little less $, a little more weight, and a lot more mileage and durability, I love the Ultra 2000's. They ride great and are tougher than the 3000's and Grand Prix's. They are perfect for training rides and centuries. The cheaper models below that are not worth a sh*t. The 3000's give an excellent ride and grip, but don't handle road cuts well. I've had only a few sidewall problems, and those were with the cheapest super sports. I used tubular GP's and Sprinter 250's for racing back in tha' day.|
|re: Tires||Lone Gunman|
Aug 30, 2001 5:03 PM
|I have about 2100 on a set of Conti Ultra 2000's. The 1 flat that I had was a valve failure. I just rotated them last week to try and coax a few more miles out of them and will not be suprised if I get 2700 out of them. If I could find them in blue sidewalls I would buy them again. Anyone know where I can get them with colors? First set was GP3000 and got 2100 out before threads appeared on the front tire. 1 flat also I believe.|
|Contis on sale ....||bianchi boy|
Aug 31, 2001 4:39 AM
|You can get Conti GP 3000s on sale right now for $29 ($56 pair) at www.labicicletta.com/ |
I believe they have them with blue sidewalls as well as other colors. I have the blue sidewall GP 3000s on my Celest Bianchi and they really look sharp. I've only got a few hundred miles on them so far, so I can't attest to the wear, but I like they way they handle.
|re: Tires||Deacon Don|
Aug 30, 2001 5:17 PM
|I'll have to "weigh in" literally on the side of the Axial Pros. I'm not the lightest rider on the circuit at 215 lbs., but at 6' 4", it's not too bad. I rode a pair of Conti GP 3000s for 1500 miles and had to "retire" them to trainer work only. After about 500 miles, a flat surface began to wear down the center of the tire. I even tried rotating, but to no avail. Had several puncture flats, cuts showed up and the tread wear was bad. At $50 a pop, I wasn't happy.
Purchased a new bike that came with Axial Pros. I have 1500 miles on these tires and they are great. No unusual wear, no cuts, no flats...they just keep humming. I'm a believer and will be a repeat customer.
Aug 30, 2001 5:32 PM
|I've been experimenting with tires. I like the Conti GP'3000's, good handling, excellent rolling resistance, good tread life. Unfortunatly the price did me in as these tires seldom go on sale.
I've been using the Performance brand Forte Pro Kevlars. For a $20.00 tire (on sale) they work well. However I'm find that the tire casing just won't hold up. They seem to wear ok, but my first rear tire bulged after about 600 miles, and my second rear tire has a ripple in the tread at about the same mileage. I think this is common for cheap tires.
Conti's have a deep tread pattern and a lot of beef. They tend to suck up a lot of debris for me, and I experienced a lot of flats.
The expensive tires have soft rubber, stick to the road better, but tend to wear quicker. The inexpensive tires have hard rubber, ride harder, and wear better.
During the summer I buy tires on sale and replace them every two months or so.
During the winter when the roads are wet, I ride with good, quality tires.
Aug 30, 2001 5:48 PM
|I know they were not on your list, but check out the Vredestein Tri-Comp http://www.vredesteinusa.com/start.htm . I have 2,000 miles on the front and replaced the rear at 1,500 when it started to square off. I could have easily got another 500 miles out of it, but I'm anal. And no flats in that time period. I can't say that about the Axial Pro's I rode, although I was pretty happy with their performance. And I certainly can't say that about all the GP3000's I replaced on customer's bikes when I worked in a shop.|
Aug 30, 2001 8:36 PM
|Me too. I am very happy with these tires so far. And they can be had for around $21-22 at Parker International.|
Aug 30, 2001 8:40 PM
|I've been getting a little over 3000 miles on my rear Axial Pros and about 4000 miles out of the APs on front. I'm 175 and ride in some urban and industrial areas with a lot of debris. When taking into account ride quality and durability, they're the best tires I've owned.|
Aug 30, 2001 10:31 PM
|Trying these on my Calfee Tandem (25mm) the sidewalls are apparently Kevlar and they seem beefy enough for tandem use. We'll see.|
|Axial Sport||John Evans|
Aug 31, 2001 6:58 AM
|Seems like alot of you guys like the axial pro's. Does anyone know anything about the axial sport's, Performance has them real cheap?|
|Axial Sport||Andy M-S|
Aug 31, 2001 7:37 AM
|I used Axial Sports for a while last year (not the bi-sport) and found that they didn't seem to have much grip. They wore well, but it was far too easy to break traction on the rear when making an emergency stop.|| |