Aug 30, 2001 10:01 AM
|I think I need a new helmet, been using a Giro Helios since '99 and there is a crack between one of the front vents that is a non accident crack. Not sure how it occured, it was not from a collision, glued it once to get me a little further into the season and it appears to be getting worse. Does anyone know the big difference between a Giro 2000 model Boreas and the Eclipse. Relatively large price reductions on both right now, and I don't want to temp fate much longer. Also, best prices? Colorado Cyclist has Eclipse good price, Performance has Boreas good price. Thanks|
Aug 30, 2001 10:08 AM
|Contact Giro before buying a new one. They may replace the old one for a small fee.|
Aug 30, 2001 10:18 AM
|Typical industry deal is 20% off a new helmet when you present the older damaged one at the point of purchse. Kinda makes it difficult if you're not using a LBS.|
Aug 30, 2001 10:23 AM
|Bought it from the Nashbar Outlet Store, in Youngstown, OH. They have since moved on so I have no recourse but to buy a new helmet which is okay, I got 3 seasons out of it and am ready to upgrade. It really is not a warranty issue at this point. I suspect what happened is that it got crunched in my luggage on a week long tour on the way to the ride.|
|Matters Not||grz mnky|
Aug 30, 2001 10:53 AM
|Doesn't really matter how it happened, which is why I suspect they've moved to this deal. Take the 20% - you could send the savings to me if it bothers you;-) You don't have to go back to the shop where it was bought - any shop will do. Good luck!|
|re: Helmets||Lone Guman|
Aug 30, 2001 10:18 AM
|Crack appeared in late 2000. Warranty was one year. I lived 40 miles away from the factory at the time and it was not worth it to run to the factory and drop it off after talking to a Rep at the factory.|
Aug 30, 2001 10:44 AM
|I had a Helios stolen from me so I got a 2000 Boreas on sale from Performance 2 months ago and love it. The Roc Loc 3 makes a great fit, and the extra vents keep me cool, even in the humid heat of Houston. It costs almost twice as much as the 24-vent Eclipse and it's Roc Loc 2. The Boreas looks better, but that's just an extra. The Eclipse is a great bargain! It all depends on what you need and value vs. the cost.|
|re: Helmets||Miek K|
Aug 30, 2001 10:50 AM
|I have a Boreas as well, pretty nice helmet all in all, light, good ventilation and I like the Roc-Lock 3.
Considering the price you can get Boreas for these days (depressing, I paid full boat last year) I think its the way to go.
|re: Helmets||Harley man|
Aug 30, 2001 11:16 AM
|A helmet is like wearing a raincoat in the shower. Live to ride, ride to live.|
Aug 31, 2001 8:46 AM
|It's pretty hard to ride (or live for that matter) with a cracked skull. I've been there. Wear your helmet.|
Aug 30, 2001 11:21 AM
|Try a few on. The manufacturers each have differently shaped head molds that they base their helmet design on.|
|Stop this debate right here!!||TypeOne|
Aug 30, 2001 11:23 AM
|Oh please, not another helmet vs. no helmet thread!
I agree, the Boreas is great, btw
|Type one||Harley man|
Aug 30, 2001 11:40 AM
|I hope you know I was kidding. A helmet is a must but I thought I could suck a few people into a pointless debate. No takers though.|
|Sorry - you had me!||TypeOne|
Aug 30, 2001 1:22 PM
|Other than me, I guess no one got suckered in to that debate!|
|Call me cheap . . .||Rod|
Aug 30, 2001 11:31 AM
|I wish I could help, but you're talking about helmet models that I always walk right past. I think I'm getting the hang of it. At least I can now see substantive differences in frame and groupset grades, as in Chorus to Veloce, etc. At this time of year, Performance/Nashbar usually offer bike helmets on sale, ranging from $29 to well over $100. Perhaps my sight isn't too keen, but IS there a substantive difference offered by $100 helmets, like better cooling, better crash protection than cheap helmets? They are all ansi/snell certified, so what would parting with more of my discretionary cash give me - more "cool" factor?|
|They look cooler! NM||filtersweep|
Aug 30, 2001 11:40 AM
|Call me cheap . . .||Mike K|
Aug 30, 2001 11:49 AM
|You do tend to get better ventilation and lower weight as you go up the food chain. You also get better adjustability on some manufacturers' product lines in the higher end.
And while I doubt that a $150 helmet is twice as safe (or at all safer) as a $75 helmet I am more likely to wear a lighter and better ventilated helmet making it safer for me.
|Call me cheap . . .||Jack S|
Aug 30, 2001 12:03 PM
|Protection-wise (certification), no there is not much difference, but you get a better ventilated, more adjustable, and lighter helmet (and better looking depending on personal taste) when you drop more coin.|
|The Boreas has better venting IMHO||Live Steam|
Aug 30, 2001 12:02 PM
|I have had both and I like the Boreas. It has larger vents which allows better air flow. It also has a better fit and looks. There is a price difference though. Even at discounted prices.|
|The Boreas has better venting IMHO||Lone Gunman|
Aug 30, 2001 2:12 PM
|Thanks all. Rod there is a difference. I have owned 4 helmets in the past. Without any question, Giro makes a helmet that fits my head. And I don't have to fool with the different sized pads to get the fit right. Roc loc 2 on old helmet worked good. I always buy helmets on clearance,where I get a top line helmet at a great price. There is a difference, I have been wearing a helmet long enough to know the feel of a good helmet vs lesser quality. Fit is it.|
Aug 30, 2001 3:09 PM
|I've been using the eclipse with good results. It's very light and vents well. It's good for the price in that it's much better than the $50 helmets. The boreas is supposedly cooler because it has better vents, but in no way is the eclipse not cool.
You'll save 30-40 bucks for something else. Maybe use your savings toward a nice jersey or something.