|Shorts with seams in the Chamois||SimpleGreen|
Aug 30, 2001 8:51 AM
|Shorts and saddles are of course personal, but I've tried Giordana CP4 and Voler shorts recently with bad success. I like the construction of both, but for some reason the seams in the Chamois rubs me the wrong way. I don't have this problem with shorts that don't have the seams.
Is there anything I can do to help this like use lots of chamois creme or whatever?
Are there opinions on other shorts, such as the Castelli VT, which don't seem to have the chamois seams? Progetto Y/VT? Assos? Nalini? Santini?
|re: Shorts with seams in the Chamois||Birddog|
Aug 30, 2001 9:16 AM
|I have 2 pair of Santini and they have no seam, but do have some shape and built in channels. I call them my 50 mile shorts, because much over that and they start to chafe. I think it has something to do with retained moisture at that point, but don't know for sure. My favorites are some Performance Elite bib shorts, I did Triple Bypass (120 miles, 10,000 feet of climbing) in those and they were fine.|
|re: Shorts with seams in the Chamois||Alpedhuez55|
Aug 30, 2001 9:23 AM
|I bought a pair of Sportful Bib shorts with a stitch right down the middle. Udder balm helped a little. I would feel like I am sitting right on the seam. I do not think they are the most comfortable shorts because of that seam. Luckily I only paid $6 for them and it is not big deal if I do not wear them a lot.
I have had luck with shorts from Performance Bikes. I just got two new pair a couple of weeks ago. They are the ones with the gel padding. I feel like I pooped my pants when I am standing in them but when I am riding, I feel very comfortable. The price was write too since I ended up paying about $25 a pair for nice 8 heavyweight 8 pannel shorts.
|re: Shorts with seams in the Chamois||Lone Gunman|
Aug 30, 2001 9:24 AM
I use 3 of the shorts you mention:
1) Santini, seams are on the outer edge of the chamois, indentations on the rest of the chamois, no seams there.
2) Nalini, one seam down the center, seam around the outer edge of chamois
3) Voler, baseball type seams, seams on the outer edge.
Santini has the least amount of seams to skin contact and meet my price range. I always use a chamois butter of some type. Right now I am using bag balm but it stains light colored clothing and does not wash out of chamois very well. I like the actual chamois butter and will probably try the Nalini creme as well. Bag balm just does not have the staying power of chamois butter over a long ride. I guess the trick is to not skimp on the stuff, shmear it on and let experience dictate how much is enough for you.
|re: Shorts with seams in the Chamois||curious|
Aug 30, 2001 9:41 AM
|I recently got a pair of the Castelli Y2K bibs and I like them alot. Went almost 4 hours the other day and no chafing whatsoever. The chamois is great for me but the other thing is the material of the short itself - it is very like and feels good on your skin. I am very impressed with them and bought a pair of the shorts too! I also have a pair of PI Ultrasensor with the PRT chamois. These are very nice too and have had no chafing. The chamois in the PI are a little thicker than the Castelli's but worked great. BTW - if you want Castelli Y2K I suggest checking out Ebay. A company called Gearlink auctions them off continually brand new and packaged. Min reserve i think is $119 with about $5 or $6 dollars shipping from Florida. They also sell many other new cycling items like Giro Pneumo. Good luck.|
|re: Shorts with seams in the Chamois||mad badger|
Aug 30, 2001 9:53 AM
|Having found Casteli Progetto Y very comfortable but quick to wear out, I've just spent 2 weeks in the Alps using Assos shorts.....definitely the dog's b*ll*cks as we say in the UK. Best fit ever, tough stitching, excellent lycra. But V expensive. By the way Alpe d'Huez is twice as bad as you ever imagined! I now have a picture of myself at the last hairpin looking totally wasted to put in my office.|
|Progetto or Assos with seams??||SimpleGreen|
Aug 30, 2001 12:17 PM
|Do either of the Progetto Y or the assos have a seam in the chamois?
I know they are comfortable for many, but my anatomy doesn't like it when there is a seam where my leg connects to the groin such as the ones made by Voler or Giordana.
PS you gotta post your pic on Alpe D'Huez!! That way we can imagine Phil Ligget saying, "It looks as though Mad Badger is in a spot of bother!"
|Progetto or Assos with seams??||madbadger|
Aug 31, 2001 2:12 AM
|They do have seams down the centre, but they're padded & stitched really neatly to prevent any discomfort from these areas, the Assos seat pad looks almost obscene, with it's wierd "genital" shape. As for the picture I might just do that!|
Aug 30, 2001 1:50 PM
|After trying a number of the new seamed shorts that have ribbed channels, such as Performance and Voler, and encountering chafing problems, I got a pair from http://www.boure.com/ Boure is as user-friendly as Voler and allow no-questions-asked returns, and the lycra is incredibly soft and smooth. The best of all though is that they have a one-piece synthetic chamois that feels the best of any I have tried--no seams and no ribbing. They make bibs and shorts in two levels each, chamois is similar in both. I highly recommend them (even though they market somewhat to mtn. bikers, probably inevitable since they are in Durango).|
Aug 30, 2001 4:51 PM
|I just returned my Voler shorts yesterday. Even with using good amounts of Chamois Butter they still rubbed me raw and any shorts with seams in the crotch give me a problem. Just make sure that the next shorts you buy don't have any seams other than on the perimeter of the "baseball cut" chamois. I haven't looked at Boure' lately, but you might give them a shot. Good luck.|
|re: Shorts with seams in the Chamois||STEELYeyed|
Aug 30, 2001 5:25 PM
|I use nothing but Cannondale Vertex with the seamless perforated chamois,I have tried a lot of others but now use only the C'dale Vertex,they used to use the same pad in the HPX shorts but now HPX a uses a cheaper,thinner pad.|| |