|Where was your bike manufactured?||Joseph Judkins|
Aug 26, 2001 4:01 PM
|I just viewed a web site of a Taiwan manufacturer of carbon fiber products such as frames, forks and seat posts etc. The name of the company is Martec and they really make some nice stuff, I've seen it. I noticed a new edition to their frame selection, a Kestrel Talon. I had no idea Kestrel was having some of their frames made overseas. Question: Does it make a difference where a frame was made in your overall decision when buying a bike? Question #2: If you had $2500.00 to purchase a Merlin or a Seven frameset, would you be willing to pay $500.00 less for the same frame if it had a Mongoose or a Novara decal on it or no decal at all? Not that these companies are making frames for Mongoose or Novara but how much is the decal on the downtube worth?|
|re: Where was your bike manufactured?||Rich Clark|
Aug 26, 2001 5:29 PM
|#1. No. Unless it was made in Vatican City. Those Swiss Guards can't weld to save their lives, or the Pope's.
#2. Yes. I'd be happy to pay even less if it said Huffy on it.
I buy bikes for myself, and I don't give a rat's patootie what anybody else thinks of them, or me. Life's too short.
|Chicago, IL||Humma Hah|
Aug 26, 2001 7:57 PM
|... American steel, and I'm proud to ride it, but they don't make them there any more.
I want the next one to be Chicago-built, as well, a Vintage Paramount.
If I had the money and wanted a new bike, I'd dearly love to have a respected US custom framebuilder make one for me. Somebody who brazes steel tubes into Nervux lugs, or comparable. Moon's work catches my eye.
But as a practical matter, for getting down the road cost-effectively on a modern bike, I'd swallow my pride and buy whatever seemed to be put together well, affordable, and fit me.
|Scattante-Italian? no, Taiwan!!!||Made in Taiwan|
Aug 26, 2001 8:38 PM
|I was at supergo a while back and had seen this "Scattante" on their website. I went in with the assumption that this might be an new italian bicycle manufacture, but was dissapointed b/c the head tube had "Made in Taiwan" sticker on it. I wasn't upset b/c the darn thing is made in Taiwan, but fetl uncomfortable that Supergo had made such a big deal about the word "scattante" being italian and that it meant quick or something. |
I read a Taiwanese/chinese bicycle bulletin very much like this one (http://www.biknet.com.tw/~sean/wwwboard.htm) and they/we are very proud that the taiwanese companies make a great amount of the bicycles that the US/Euro pros race on, road, dual susp, hard tail...etc. But to put a word like "scattante" on the downtube and somehow try to use Italian's heritage of bicycle making (not that taiwan's bike making heritage is any less) is just plain misleading.
Sometimes i like to try to play the devil's advocate and debate qualities of italian/franch/US vs. Taiwanese. sometimes i like to play the white man and sometimes i like to be taiwanese. It all comes down to your personal prejudice. Being in US is sort of an interesteing predicament. I can snob off euro/asian bikes and on a different day, i can snob off US bikes.
All that said, the "scattante" had nice weld jobs on it, the tubes shape funny, but the weld was very nicely done. Havn't ridden one but the the quality "looks" pretty good.
forgot what my point is, but just ride the darn thing and see if you like it. If you can't live with where it's made then get another bike.
having ranted this far.... I'm waiting for my French frame to arrive at my door step anyday now.
|Scattante-Italian? no, Taiwan!!!||davidl|
Aug 27, 2001 4:00 AM
|I have a univega with a columbus thron frame that had to have been made in Taiwan - considering the price of the bike. The tig-welds, although rather industrial, look fine. Fitted out with a Veloce/Daytona mix, this thing rides just great. It's hard to see how it could be improved upon - especially for the price. I'm a fan of this taiwan-made frame. Besides, what difference does it make ?|
|Univega frames||rainy day rider|
Aug 27, 2001 8:21 AM
|I have a Univega frame also, but I'm pretty sure it was made down the road from me in Kent, Washington. Sadly, that plant was closed earlier this year. |
I like my ride too, and the price was right.
|Scattante Zonal Taiwanese, the Scattante Airplane is Italian||keith m.|
Aug 27, 2001 5:59 AM
|The airplane is made in the Cinelli factory. The Zonal is made in Asia.|
|fresh set of merlin decals: $500||club|
Aug 27, 2001 5:22 AM
|price negotiable.my bikes were made in: Somerville Mass (2), Tennessee (2), Taiwan (1), Connecticut (1), Chicago (2), England, Italy, Seattle, Japan (2), and Minnesota.|
|very well said !! nm||Leroy L|
Aug 27, 2001 5:48 AM
|re: Where was your bike manufactured?||Bart S.|
Aug 27, 2001 6:28 AM
|Bikes like cars are increasingly more international - my Bianchi Volpe (Italian manufacturer) touring bike has a "designed in America" decal on the top tube, a frame made in Taiwan, Shimano RSX componants (Japanese company), and Michelin tires (French company).
Technology is very mobile in today's world. Quality can come from anywhere. It depends on the skill and integrity of the manufacturer.
|Sebastopol, CA/Santa Cruz, CA/& wherever Gary Fishers are made.||MrCelloBoy|
Aug 27, 2001 6:52 AM
|re: better questions||Breezydz|
Aug 27, 2001 9:14 AM
|I understand pride of ownership, snob appeal, and the political ramifications of buying a bike made in an evil empire. That being said I think "Where are you going on that bike?" or "Want some company?" are much more better questions.|
|re: Where was your bike manufactured?||grzy mnky|
Aug 27, 2001 10:54 AM
|Serotta - NY |
Cannondale - PA
|re: Where was your bike manufactured?||Tri-State Cycler|
Aug 27, 2001 1:55 PM
|1. Vicenza, Italy
I really could care less where the bike is made, as long as it suits me.