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Steel frame? Colnago, De Rosa ?'sdan31
Aug 25, 2001 9:05 PM
I am looking for a nice riding steel frame. I was considering a De Rosa Neo Primato, a Colnago MXL, and an IF crown jewel. The De Rosa seems to be a better deal. I have yet to ride all. Just looking for opinions and suggestion for comparable frames.
re: Steel frame? Colnago, De Rosa ?'str
Aug 25, 2001 10:50 PM
I ride a De Rosa Neo Primato (late 98' Neo Pro). I don't think you will regret it if you buy one. It rides real smooth and handles very nice. It is not sluggest at all. A very nice bike for the money.
re: Steel frame? Colnago, De Rosa ?'szero
Aug 26, 2001 7:01 AM
i use to ride a derosa but seem someone else wanted it more than i did so they came in my apt and helped themselves to it...i bought a colnago mxl to replace it and believe me it blows the derosa away...this bike really rides great and is easy to weighs 19 1/2 lbs and rides like it is a lot lighter....gary
big descrepency I know, but check out GunnarDoothaBartman
Aug 26, 2001 7:09 AM
I recently bought a Gunnar frame and completed the build up two days ago. I was a little worried that purchasing the frame only because it was in my budget would result in a poor ride, after all, a brand new Gunnar Hot Dog will only cost 600 dollars and I got a two year old model at half that price. I had tested a Lemond Zurich and almost had an orgasm after the test ride, so I was expecting less from the Gunnar. When I rode it for the first time I was amazed at the quality of the bike. There wasn't any of that percieved loss of power transfer (as I was swapping from alluminum to steel) that I felt on the Zurich. I had ignorantly believed that steel would simply feel like all power was being robbed in a trade for the comfort of the ride. Not so on the Gunnar. It's just as stiff when I hammer as my Scandium frame was, and it feels like a luxery car at all times. I find myself aiming for bumps and potholes in the road.

Gunnar also makes their bikes with the same geometry as the Paramount, so it's proven.
re: Steel frame? Colnago, De Rosa ?'sfuzzybunnies
Aug 26, 2001 7:34 AM
I own a '99 Giro d'Italia from derosa and it rides awsome, bb is stiff and the handleing is responsive. TTFN
re: Steel frame?bike_junkie
Aug 26, 2001 7:44 AM
The I.F. is a good choice, but do yourself a favor and don't overlook the Serotta Colorado III. Serotta really knows steel. I also second the Gunnar recommendation. Good Luck!
re: Steel frame? Colnago, De Rosa ?'sHank
Aug 26, 2001 10:39 AM
just to add a few to your list: Steelman, Ibis, Ritchey, Strong. I think the Steelman in particular is worth a closer look. I think he builds some of the nicest tig welded steel frames out there.
I have the older Primato built with EL/OS.. Love it!Highgear
Aug 26, 2001 4:27 PM
This bike rides so well. Stiff enough in the BB but comfy on long rides. I have heard many people talk about how good the ride characteristics of EL/OS is. I think the new Primato is built out of the Genius tube set. Still a great tube set and probably even lighter.
Ditto on MXLMass Biker
Aug 26, 2001 4:58 PM
MXL - supple, stiff, and a joy to ride. Nothing like that "ping!" when you bomb through those New England frost heaves. Pinned + lugged construction = tough enough for what I'm looking for. Also, it fits perfectly, so the weight/looks/ride are all freebies frankly. All told, it gives my buddy's steel Serotta a run for the money (weight wise), but you would be splitting hairs to chose between the MXL, the Serotta, the Steelman etc. I'd throw in the Landshark, the KHS 853 (!), and the Cervelo as worthy of your consideration also.

mondonico nmcycleguy
Aug 26, 2001 5:18 PM
Aug 27, 2001 6:15 AM
Are you heavier rider by chance? If so I think the MXL is your bike assuming it fits you. IFs tend to have kinda a weird geometry compared to the other 2 you mentioned so make sure it fits you.
Aug 27, 2001 6:21 AM
take a look at carl strong. for the price of these other great frames, you could get full on custom, with tube choice to boot.