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...other flakey road bikers(19 posts)

...other flakey road bikersfiltersweep
Aug 24, 2001 4:52 PM
Am I the only one this happens to? I'm out for a ride, and in the distance (these are urban rides) I see another rider (this only seems to happen to other solo male riders) who cruising along at a more "recreational" pace (in the sub 20s). I eventually pass him, and he suddenly turns it into a race. I'm talking about a situation where I am maintaining a consistant pace (which is brisk, but not a sprint). Most of the time these guys end up running stop signs/red lights and do other generally rude behavior toward the cars around to catch up. The real bother of these situations is that I don't want to be associated with these bozos (some actually have tried drafting me), and yet I don't want to disrupt the pace of my ride. Half the time these guys blow through a stop sign to pass me, then immediately pull off the road onto a side street. I bring this up because I don't see joggers doing this sort of behavior. I don't understand how everything has to turn into a competition.

Do other people encounter this sort of thing?

(On the other hand, there have been several total strangers who have started interesting conversations while I've been out- without the least bit of weirdness... you know, breaking the taboo of 'talking to strangers').
re: ...other flakey road bikersbattaglin bob
Aug 24, 2001 5:11 PM
sit up and wave them by. when they blow, uncork a wicked sprint and drop them like a bag of rocks.
Or....Blue 'Goose
Aug 26, 2001 10:18 AM
Hello, first time post.

I've recently been road riding again after a long layoff and noticed the behavior of others is
somewhat odd. I've mostly been riding by myself. However, sometimes you get some folks
who want to catch up or pass you or drop you or whatever. I usually don't let it bother me
because I'm sort of an individualist when it comes to these rides. If I do a 30 mile solo ride
it's usually for a reason. If someone wants to say hello, great. But I've no room for any
antagonism on the rides I go on. So if someone wants to turn it into the Tour De Goose I don't
see it happening.

And sometimes you see things that make you wonder:
Yesterday as I was out riding doing around 20-25 I noticed a guy probably a mile ahead of
me. Then 1/2 mile. Then a few hundred feet. If he continued on my route, I would have
passed him. But he did something unusual and what I deemed dangerous: he veered off to the
right and rode down the frontage road for a freeway and was riding on the shoulder with 70
mph traffic just a few inches away. He was riding what looked to be an old 3 speed with big
brown fenders and he was wearing a helmet but I expected to hear about "cyclist hit by semi"
on the news that night. Insanity.
blow a fart when they draft you! (nm)Rusty McNasty
Aug 24, 2001 5:16 PM
re: ...other flakey road bikersAD14
Aug 24, 2001 5:17 PM
Happens to me often. Last time it was a guy on a serotta ti. I caught him and commented nice bike. He blows a red light and takes off up a pretty decent grade. I start out when the light turns green and continue on thinking he is gone way ahead. At the top of the climb I begin to reel him in and as we approach another light he blows that light! I turned off thinking that this idiot(who blew the light without checking traffic) would not be worth talking to when I did catch him anyway.
re: ...other flakey road bikersBilly Jim Rae Bob
Aug 24, 2001 5:27 PM
Happens to me all the time. The ones I get the most kick out of is the dudes on the beat up Wal Mart bikes with the squeeky chains, the seat is about 8" too low and they are wearing jeans and are riding on the sidewalk. Like do they think they even stand a remote chance?

Aug 24, 2001 5:28 PM
I've encountered all kinds. The most vivid in my memory is a female rider (sorry ladies) who I encountered while climbing a hill. I attempted to start a conversation, but she didn't want anything to do with an old dinosaur, so I continued on my ride. Everytime I descended she would come screaming up from behind me and go blowing by. Each time we started to climb again I would eventually catch up and drop her. At one point while descending at approx 40MPH I encountered a shovel blade laying in the middle of the lane, on a curve. I veered to the right to avoid it and she elected to pass me without warning to the left. If I would have veered left we would have collided. Finally I just let her get ahead of me and I changed my route in order to get away from her. Sometimes when I see another cyclist it makes me want to go another direction, and on some occasions I do just that. However I have met some interesting people, so it's a toss up. My dream is to find a nice lady ride partner who owns a Porsche dealership. If my wife sees this I'm dead....
but isn't it great when...UncleMoe
Aug 24, 2001 5:44 PM
some stranger you meet on the ride and you talk with them for a while turns out to be really cool?
but isn't it great when...Lone Gunman
Aug 24, 2001 6:00 PM
Happened to me. Not quite at the ride but on the way to the ride @ 1998 LAF Ride in Austin. Standin at the luggage claim with a whole bunch of other folks. Guy asks me if I was there for the ride, where I'm from, etc... Turns out we both went to the same college, both from the same city and of course know some of the same people. The guy he was attending the ride with went through his chemo as Lance was finishing his in Indy and this guy went through his as his friend was finishing his chemo. Since then we are fairly good friends.
re: ...other flakey road bikersken E
Aug 24, 2001 6:00 PM
these guys always are the silent type. no hello. no eye contact and no " mind if i hold your wheel ". after a pass they are suddenly on your wheel haunting you like Marley's ghost. usually out of shape and on too much bike. I consider myself friendly (for a roady) and enjoy sharing a ride. always let these guys "win",although the farting and dropping options are also appealing.
re: ...other flakey road bikersJames1
Aug 24, 2001 7:26 PM
This happened to me last weekend. I'm just cruising along at a steady pace recovering from my first interval and I come across a guy doing about 15-16 mph and I go by at about 19-20. About 30 seconds later I notice him coming past on my left huffing and puffing going all out just to get by me like I'm in a race or want to be in a race with him. I'm like ok whatever. A couple minutes later I'm ready to start my next interval so I crank it up and I guess he was at his max because as I rolled by there was only a feeble attempt to grab my wheel. I enjoyed dropping him.

re: ...other flakey road bikersJohnG
Aug 24, 2001 9:30 PM
You're complaining too much.

I pass way more riders than pass me and I enjoy pulling people anyway. Life's too short man.... just enjoy!

...its always little kidsTrypsin
Aug 25, 2001 3:34 AM
I always seem to run into little kids who want to race. Usually they spot me a good 50 yards or more before I have caught them. Then they start sprinting so that they can keep in front of me. I usually give the pedals a couple extra hard cranks and then coast as I pass them. I typically get comments like "you suck" as I do this.
re: ...other flakey road bikersASIC
Aug 25, 2001 7:10 AM
I encounter all kinds of cyclists on my commute to and from work. There are those who blow through red lights going over 20 mph. It's usually road cyclists who do this kind of stunt.

Sometimes, there are those who try to draft me-- I usually show good bike manners to these strangers, like pointing out potholes, glass, etc. Many times other road cyclist (those who are fully deck out in cycling gear) who try want to race and pass me. I can tell these are newbies because they are riding on big gears and slow cadence. I usually drop them when they tire after a few miles. I just wave goodbye--

I used to race and ride in a group. Now I enjoy riding alone. I am the The Lone Cyclist.

ASIC is my temporary name.
Trollman picks up and drops....Trollman
Aug 25, 2001 10:02 AM
Trollman just rides up to riders and passes them. Whether or not they can stay on Trollman's wheel is their problem. They are welcome if they want to stay, they are dropped if they cannot keep the pace.

Trollman does not let other riders ride in front of him. If another rider tries to pull, Trollman will pick up the pace and they will be gone for good.
I get passed by roller bladers :-)kenyee
Aug 25, 2001 11:20 AM
But I'm a newbie so it doesn't bug me. These guys must be going at a good 20mph clip on those speed blades w/ 5 wheels. I was impressed.

(It was on a multi-use trail)
A different 'spin'Crash
Aug 25, 2001 12:35 PM
As someone who has only been back on road bikes for the last 4 months or so, I must confess that I like to chase when I am passed on the road. I don't do it to be annoying, for me it's just a measurement as to how far I need to go to get to where I want to be. Sometimes it really helps my workout. If I do catch the person I always say something and see if they want to ride together for awhile. You meet some really nice people this way. If they don't answer or just want to be left alone, I don't push it (I loved the line about Marley's ghost).
I'm about 5'11" and around 200 and I've had several of the 'all dressed up and looking for someone to feel superior to' riders (you know who you are) draft off me for several miles on the flats until the road turns up. These are the people I usually get the glares from as they slide by. Even though I just got through pulling them they never offer a wheel. I just figure they're helping my workout.
funny how many others have seen this too!Tig
Aug 25, 2001 2:05 PM
It happend to me this morning on my 4 mile warmup ride to a club ride. I see a guy pop out on the road in front of me but I keep my steady warm up pace of 19-20. I notice I'm catching him and figure he's going 17-18. He gets caught at a light and it turns green just as I get there. I say "good morning" to him as I pass and continue riding my pace. Withing 1 minute he blasts past me at 22, but at least says "hello". I keep my pace and just smile to myself.

It must be an ego thang, huh? I don't mind someone on my wheel as long as they know how to draft without rubbing wheels and take me down. Sometimes you can make a new aquantance and even get them interested in attending a club ride.
ego thing, but....filtersweep
Aug 25, 2001 4:46 PM
...what does it even mean? You could be at your warm-up pace, you could be coming off a 90 mile ride, you could be starting a 90 mile ride, maybe you did a monster ride yesterday, maybe you just blew out your quads doing squats, or like in your case, you are riding to a club ride...

I swear EVERY time this happens, the other guy pulls off almost immediately after passing to "check a tire" or pulls off the road entirely to take the oddest possible route (so he doesn't get passed after he loses his legs or lungs). It's an amusing bit of some humans' nature. My only (and original) point is this never seems to happen with some guy obviously training for a triathalon or a time trial... it's usually more of a "Fred."