|Mavic Reflex Clincher||Mel Erickson|
Aug 20, 2001 6:21 AM
|Anybody using these? I know they're not made anymore but how do they compare to the tubs and Open Pro's? I've got a set laced to Ultegra hubs that are virtually brand new. 32 hole, 14/15 DT, alloy nipples. Shod with Conti GP's. I'm considering using them for my everyday wheelset. Comments or thoughts?|
|Solid as a rock!||RhodyRider|
Aug 20, 2001 6:51 AM
|I've been using the EXACT same wheelset on my Litespeed since '97. They were the stock wheels when I bought it from CC, and to date remain my only wheelset for this bike. Over five consistent long-mileage seasons on all manner of road surfaces & conditions (Midwest and now New England), these wheels have remained tight, true, smooth, and fast. FWIW, I'm 6'1" and over 200#, so I'm not a "gentle" rider. No, these are not the lightest wheels available, nor do they offer any "drool" factor. But they are 100% dependable and they work damn well. I don't race, so an "everyday" wheelset for me is just that.
Afterthought: if for some reason you don't want/like those wheels, heck, I'll buy 'em from you so I WILL have a spare set!
|re: Mavic Reflex Clincher||G|
Aug 20, 2001 9:32 AM
|I have a pair of these. Got them a year before Mavic came out with the Open Pro. Used them for about three months and found them solid. When my current wheelset(Ultegra/Open Pro) needs to be replaced, I am going to lace up the hubs to the Reflexes.|
|One possible problem:||DMoore|
Aug 20, 2001 10:25 AM
|The original clincher Reflex rims were reputed to have some durability problems. There were lots of stories about rims cracking at the spoke holes. The Open Pro was supposedly introduced as a reinforced version of the Reflex to solve that problem. I suspect that high spoke tension and heavyweight riders were probably the source of most of those problems. If you're a lightweight, I imagine you have nothing to worry about. If you're over 175# or so, I'd suggest you keep an eye on the rims with an occasional close inspection.|
Aug 20, 2001 11:24 AM
|I've ridden them a little and weigh 180. I think I'll give them a daily workout and keep an eye on them.|
Aug 20, 2001 1:46 PM
|was the brittle hard anodising used on these rims for aesthetic effect. Like paint on an elastic band, it cracked microscopically as soon as the rim was formed into hoops- ie, during manufacture- and these cracks created stress risers which propogated into the rim, eventually causing fatigue failure in the rim around the spoke sockets. The Open Pro was a solution to a problem which shouldn't have existed: rather than dispense with the anodizing, they simply made the bed of the rim thicker, to resist the failures with brute force. The weight increase would have been objected to by riders if it hadn't been offset by sidewall machining, which thinned the sidewalls an equivalent (but locally irregular) amount, and had the added advantage for Mavic of reducing the fair life of the rim and hence the repurchase incidence, not to mention another feature to advertise and acronym to dream up.
Anybody want to say 'progress'?
|umm they suck||fuzzybunnies|
Aug 20, 2001 7:08 PM
|These wheels are so dangerous that they shouldn't even be disposed of in the normal fasion but through a very high tech and expensive destruction method. Being familiar with the process if you send them to me I will gladly dispose of them in the proper mannor free of charge ;) I've had a set for two years and lost the rear to an unseen pot hole during a down pour. Been looking for a replacement rim ever since. Were always a durable and stiff wheelset for me. TTFN|
|Durable yes||mike mcmahon|
Aug 20, 2001 7:49 PM
|I put about 30,000 miles on a set of Reflex clinchers. They're still in service on my back-up bike, but it is about time to retire them.|| |