Jun 13, 2001 10:53 AM
|Just curious about this...
According to the UCI rulebook, "for caffeine, a sample shall be considered as positive if the concentration in the urine exceeds 12 micrograms/ml." So, how does this relate to coffee? How many cups of coffee do you need to drink to test positive?
I ask because we're talking about Italians and Frenchmen here, hell, Saeco is a coffee machine company! How many of these guys drink enough coffee to get accidental positives?
|re: Banned Caffeine...||TJeanloz|
Jun 13, 2001 11:09 AM
|It's a lot. It obviously depends on body weight, hydration level and other things, but for most people it's over 10 cups of espresso (or ~5 No-Doze pills for those who prefer that form.)|
|re: Banned Caffeine...||peloton|
Jun 13, 2001 11:10 AM
|If I remember correctly, 12 micrograms per ml would equate to about 5 or 6 cups of coffee for a 150 lb. man. I have heard of peole drinking enough soda or coffee to recieve a positive result for caffiene. It is considered a 'soft drug' by the IOC and the UCI though, so bans are usually minimal for caffeine infractions. Three monthes seems to be the usual suspension by the UCI.|
|re: Banned Caffeine...||wscott|
Jun 13, 2001 11:39 AM
|I think I've heard, that it's around 6 cups of coffee in an hour for a small guy, to get that amount in the urine. If a recall correctly, caffeine is an emetic, you stand a good chance of puking if you take too much into the stomach. I think that's why they use caffeine suppositories (according to Kimmage's book) or inject it (according to Willy Voet's book).|
|Someone was banned a few years ago, but ................||Live Steam|
Jun 13, 2001 12:16 PM
|I don't recall his name. My Italian friend knows, but I can't reach him right now. I'll let you know later.|
|Maybe this explains something.||Brian C.|
Jun 13, 2001 12:22 PM
|A few months back, procycling magazine devoted an issue to team training. One of the articles detailed what the riders eat during training and what they have on race day. |
If I recall, they don't drink coffee before a race. I thought it was for nutritional reasons but, given what you say, perhaps it was to keep within legal caffeine levels.
|Or maybe they don't want to .................||Live Steam|
Jun 13, 2001 1:05 PM
|have to pay a visit to the little domestiques room while in the Peleton. You know what that coffee can do to the bladder.:-)|
|This is true (nm)||Brian C.|
Jun 13, 2001 1:08 PM
|re: Banned Caffeine...||Dutchy|
Jun 13, 2001 5:32 PM
|we have an international stage race here in Adelaide, South Australia, and alot of the riders can be seen drinking coffee before the race starts. They have one or two cups. I read somewhere that Caffeine allows carbohydrates to release slower into the body. Therefor on longer stages the carbs stay in the body longer, before being burnt up. CHEERS.|
|Banned Caffeine in my body a year ago...||WadeOmatic|
Jun 13, 2001 9:01 PM
|now I have less vascular headaches and don't require a fix every morning. |
For "slow release" carbs use the glycemic index "The Glucose Revolution" is the name of one source of GI info.
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|Gianni Bugno (two time world champ) ..........................||Live Steam|
Jun 14, 2001 8:49 PM
|was banned for high caffeine blood levels. Though I am not sure what year the suspension was, he was world champion in '91 and '92 and road with the Gatorade/Chateau d'Ax team both years.|| |