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Banned Caffeine...(11 posts)

Banned Caffeine...Velocipedio
Jun 13, 2001 10:53 AM
Just curious about this...

According to the UCI rulebook, "for caffeine, a sample shall be considered as positive if the concentration in the urine exceeds 12 micrograms/ml." So, how does this relate to coffee? How many cups of coffee do you need to drink to test positive?

I ask because we're talking about Italians and Frenchmen here, hell, Saeco is a coffee machine company! How many of these guys drink enough coffee to get accidental positives?
re: Banned Caffeine...TJeanloz
Jun 13, 2001 11:09 AM
It's a lot. It obviously depends on body weight, hydration level and other things, but for most people it's over 10 cups of espresso (or ~5 No-Doze pills for those who prefer that form.)
re: Banned Caffeine...peloton
Jun 13, 2001 11:10 AM
If I remember correctly, 12 micrograms per ml would equate to about 5 or 6 cups of coffee for a 150 lb. man. I have heard of peole drinking enough soda or coffee to recieve a positive result for caffiene. It is considered a 'soft drug' by the IOC and the UCI though, so bans are usually minimal for caffeine infractions. Three monthes seems to be the usual suspension by the UCI.
re: Banned Caffeine...wscott
Jun 13, 2001 11:39 AM
I think I've heard, that it's around 6 cups of coffee in an hour for a small guy, to get that amount in the urine. If a recall correctly, caffeine is an emetic, you stand a good chance of puking if you take too much into the stomach. I think that's why they use caffeine suppositories (according to Kimmage's book) or inject it (according to Willy Voet's book).
Someone was banned a few years ago, but ................Live Steam
Jun 13, 2001 12:16 PM
I don't recall his name. My Italian friend knows, but I can't reach him right now. I'll let you know later.
Maybe this explains something.Brian C.
Jun 13, 2001 12:22 PM
A few months back, procycling magazine devoted an issue to team training. One of the articles detailed what the riders eat during training and what they have on race day.
If I recall, they don't drink coffee before a race. I thought it was for nutritional reasons but, given what you say, perhaps it was to keep within legal caffeine levels.
Or maybe they don't want to .................Live Steam
Jun 13, 2001 1:05 PM
have to pay a visit to the little domestiques room while in the Peleton. You know what that coffee can do to the bladder.:-)
This is true (nm)Brian C.
Jun 13, 2001 1:08 PM
re: Banned Caffeine...Dutchy
Jun 13, 2001 5:32 PM
we have an international stage race here in Adelaide, South Australia, and alot of the riders can be seen drinking coffee before the race starts. They have one or two cups. I read somewhere that Caffeine allows carbohydrates to release slower into the body. Therefor on longer stages the carbs stay in the body longer, before being burnt up. CHEERS.
Banned Caffeine in my body a year ago...WadeOmatic
Jun 13, 2001 9:01 PM
now I have less vascular headaches and don't require a fix every morning.

For "slow release" carbs use the glycemic index "The Glucose Revolution" is the name of one source of GI info.

off the back
Gianni Bugno (two time world champ) ..........................Live Steam
Jun 14, 2001 8:49 PM
was banned for high caffeine blood levels. Though I am not sure what year the suspension was, he was world champion in '91 and '92 and road with the Gatorade/Chateau d'Ax team both years.