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Jamis Eclipse vs Specialized M4 Team(3 posts)

Jamis Eclipse vs Specialized M4 Teamdrbob
Aug 28, 2001 5:05 PM
I can get either bike for about the same price....$2000. The M4 is a new 2000 model with durace. Are there still concerns with the fact the Jamis is steel?
re: Jamis Eclipse vs Specialized M4 Teamcyclopathic
Aug 28, 2001 6:01 PM
M4 would be the better deal, but
if you planning to ride centuries, doubles, brevet there's nothing like steel or Ti. for 2K you can find many fine steel bikes and some Ti
Totally different bikesCRM
Aug 29, 2001 6:04 AM
$2000 is an amazing price for the S-Works, which went for upwards of $3300 new. On the other hand, $2K for this year's Eclipse is about right.

They're completely different bikes. The S-Works frame is made from Specialized's proprietary aluminum blend, is very stiff, very light and very aero. You can't go wrong with the parts pick on that bike, either, with Dura Ace and some Specialized house-brand components. If speed and light weight are your primary concerns and comfort in the saddle over the long haul is a lesser priority, then this is the bike for you. And, again, it's a terrific deal.

The Jamis Eclipse has a Reynolds 853 steel frame and a terrific parts pick. I'm not sure what "concerns" you have with steel. Good steel, like 853, provides terrific ride quality (meaning a good combination of lateral stiffness, vertical compliance and the proverbial "lively" ride of steel). The downside is that it is a little heavier than certain aluminum frames, like the M4. Again, it depends on what's important to you. The fact that you get Mavic's top-of-the-line Ksyrium wheels and a full Ultegra group makes the Eclipse a pretty damn good bargain itself for $2K.

The most important consideration, of course, is that you get the bike that fits you best and that you enjoy riding the most.