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Analysis Paralysis: 2 Pedal Systems on 2 Bikes?(19 posts)

Analysis Paralysis: 2 Pedal Systems on 2 Bikes?Dan T
Aug 23, 2001 10:44 AM
Last year I bought my first real road bike, a Lemond with Look pedals. I thought I'd retired my old clunker Raleigh hybrid forever. However, several things have happened as I became a "real cyclist": I'm riding a lot more (Good!); I'm taking the hybrid on errands around town (also good); I just put a child seat on the hybrid to carry my 18 month old daughter (also Good!). I don't expect the Lemond will ever see a child seat!

This leaves me in a slight bit of a dilemma... I want to put clipless pedals on the hybrid. Shimano makes some pedals where the clips recess below a platform, if you're not wearing shoes with cleats (M424's are the light & cheap ones). This is great for little jaunts to the store or beach. Shimano and Performance also make pedals with clips on one side and platforms on the other. Of course this means I need to buy another pair of shoes in addition to the pedals (or switch to SPDs on the road bike, which I don't want to do).

Or do I just pick up another pair of Look pedals for the hybrid and suck it up when I don't want to wear my road shoes? Lots of inexpensive options on eBay.

I can see myself buying a proper mountain bike at some point in the future, or at least upgrading the hybrid modestly for trail riding, so maybe MTB shoes and SPDs on the hybrid wouldn't be a waste of $$...

Of course my wife will kill me if I spent $200 on pedals and shoes for a 10 year old, $300 bike!

I'm paralyzed by indecision. Help!

Dan
re: Analysis Paralysis: 2 Pedal Systems on 2 Bikes?Tig
Aug 23, 2001 11:07 AM
There aren't many cheap choices that are wortwhile. Check out the Speedplay Frogs for $129. This is a favorite MTB pedal that can be used for your hybrid and then switched to your future MTB. They work great in the mud and crud and are perfect for recessed shoes. Check 'em out at http://www.speedplay.com/home.html
I had the same challengewink
Aug 23, 2001 11:19 AM
I have two pair of shoes, one for my road bike with Look pedals and the other Shimano moutain shoes into Shimano pedals, which can also be used with no clips for jaunts around neighborhood. I would suggest you use toe clips as another alternative for your Raliegh Hybrid.

I would NEVER use any clips with a child on the back of any bike!
I had the same challengerib-eye
Aug 24, 2001 4:53 AM
that was my first thought as well..be careful using clipless with a child. But, then I recall years ago a couple of mtn biking accidents before I went clipless. I actually got stuck in old toe clips, over I went. I've adjusted my SPDs for an easy release and I've never failed to an easy release whenever needed. I actually feel safer with SPDs.
I've gone to...MrCelloBoy
Aug 23, 2001 11:27 AM
using recessed SPD's on all of my bikes due to the increased functionality of walking and pedaling efficiency.
I've also biked hundreds of miles with my kids in tow both in a Burley trailer and alleycat (3rd wheel). I had a couple of minor fallover exeriences, but if anything, the boys learned that a fall doesn't mean the end of cycling fun.
I might consider regular platforms on a total beater bike, just to be able to wear street shoes.
Keep the plain old flat pedals ...PdxMark
Aug 23, 2001 11:38 AM
and add toe clips, if you don't have them already... so long as you're riding the hybrid under 5-6 miles at a time... Not as efficient, for sure, but the money you save is a good step toward the MTB of hybrid upgrade, and you'll get wear regular shoes/sneakers rather than cycling shoes all the time.... it's the solution that worked for me, anyway...
Keep the plain old flat pedals ...searcher
Aug 23, 2001 11:55 AM
I totally agree w/ PdxMark but would suggest getting some Power Grips instead of traditional toe clips. I used them for about a year before finally going clipless. They work really well – somewhere between clips and clipless.

Check them out at performancebike.com

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/SearchResults.html
This one is easyLive Steam
Aug 23, 2001 11:40 AM
Nashbar, Performance and others all have inexpensive clipless foe around $25 -$30. Shoes for about $45. With shipping around $100. You could also check with your LBS. May of them have tons of clipless sets laying around. Most of the freds that go through their doors want platform pedals instead of the clipless that came with their bikes. They would probably let you have a pair pretty darn cheap.
I'll second the cheap shoe route...Pogliaghi
Aug 23, 2001 2:34 PM
Performance is clearing out some cheap shoes and cheap spd/flat pedals won't cost you much more than $70-$80.

check it out at:
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/large_photo.html?SKU=13351&Store=21

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/large_photo.html?SKU=2275&Store=Bike

When I switch to clipless, I started out with Ritcheys so when I got the road bike, I kept the same pedal format. Nice not to have to worry about matching shoes to the bike.
Such a stupid questionTrollman
Aug 23, 2001 12:08 PM
Switch the pedals out so both the bikes have the same pedals. So you spend a little money. Big deal. Spend the money.

Did you really need to ask someone here for this answer?

You already knew what everyone here was going to say.
Now, now TrollmanMel Erickson
Aug 23, 2001 12:46 PM
Seems we all don't agree as can be seen by the variety of answers. Personally, I lean towards the toe clip/Powergrip answer. This is an errand bike and one to take the kid on a recreational trail ride. Why do you want to have to put on specialized shoes for this? Why not just be able to hop on the bike and go? Besides, I agree that clipless pedals, toe clips or any other type of attachment to the pedal is dangerous when you have a child in a child seat attached to your bike. I don't think a child seat is safe. A trailer of some type is the best way to go, IMHO.
Trollman repents....Trollman
Aug 23, 2001 12:48 PM
Hey!grzy mnky
Aug 23, 2001 3:53 PM
Are you tying to muscle in on the cynical corner that I had all staked out? You're making me look like a softie....

If you're going to spout off, then "repent" at least don't be so feebble. You've used this subject line twice now, but you didn't really say anything. Personally, I think you're setting yourself up to get flamed, maybe you want this? Tell your "coach" that you need to do intervals until you can't speak or type. ;-)
take his advicebebop
Aug 24, 2001 5:31 AM
he is the ultimate arse!
re: Analysis Paralysis: 2 Pedal Systems on 2 Bikes?MikeC
Aug 23, 2001 12:09 PM
Here's what I do. I have clipless Campy ProFits on both my bikes (Daytona, available for under $60 on the hybrid, and Record on the road bike), but I don't always use cleated shoes on my hybrid. When I'm riding it with my family, I frequently use an old pair of Cannondale touring shoes that I used to use with toe clips. They have a stiff, textured sole that allows me to use my Daytona pedals as platforms without clipping in. I don't get foot pain, and I don't slip off (but I'm only doing a few miles). If I'm riding the hybrid alone, I can clip in and use the Daytonas like they're supposed to be used.
No, no--toe clips on the hybrid, and here's why:cory
Aug 23, 2001 1:31 PM
You can ride in any shoes. You can get off and walk. You can hop on and go to the coffee place for a latte without changing footgear. You can throw a kid in the seat and take off for the park on the spur of the moment. You can run to the store for a can of nutmeg on an instant's notice. You never have to think about anything but riding the bike.
And there is not, not not notnot NOT, enough difference in performance between toe clips and clipless that you have to think about it on a hybrid/commuter/beater/grocerygetter/kid-carrier.
Or if you don't like toe clips, try Power Grips.
re: Analysis Paralysis: 2 Pedal Systems on 2 Bikes?kyvdh
Aug 23, 2001 5:44 PM
I've got Power Grips on my bike as well. They work well, cheap, and easy to get in and out of. I've never used clipless but can see where toe clips or Power Grips could be safer with a child on the back. Make sure the child wears a helmet either way. Does your 18 month old like the bike seat? I've thought about a bike seat or trailer. Trailer just seems too wide on the road but the bike seat makes the bike pretty unstable. Anyone have other thoughts on this?
re: Analysis Paralysis: 2 Pedal Systems on 2 Bikes?cycleguy
Aug 23, 2001 6:11 PM
If you use look pedals there used to be a product call instep. It would clip on like your cleats and you could use any reg. shoe. I still have mine in the garage clipped to my old look pedals. It was many years ago but I assume they are still made and still would fit new looks?
re: Analysis Paralysis: 2 Pedal Systems on 2 Bikes?Dan T
Aug 24, 2001 5:34 PM
Thanks for (almost) all of the opinions. As expected, a few suggestions I hadn't really thought of, namely toe clips or Power Grips. Also as expected, a few useless rants. I'll ponder a little more, and probably try out the Power Grips before I do anything else.

I've seen the cheap shoe/pedal combos @ Performance, but I'm suspicious that the pedals will be crap. Several responses expressed concern about going clipless with the baby on board. If I were currently gainfully employed, I'd be buying a trailer, but that $300-$400 expenditure will have to wait till next spring. And don't worry, if _I_ won't pedal an inch on the bike without a helmet, neither will my most precious cargo! Unclipping has NEVER been a problem with the Looks (except the first week!). But I'd be concerned about unclipping from some el-cheapo pedals. Also, I was thinking of the platform/recessed clip Shimanos would make the sneaker/Teva trips easier or baby on board trips safer.

Using the PowerGrips might help me round out the top of my spin... That'd be a bonus!

Toting an extra 24 lbs on a clunky bike is great training by the way! Really makes you appreciate the good bike.

Dan