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newton horror storries, zepp?(9 posts)

newton horror storries, zepp?azukor
Aug 17, 2001 8:33 PM
I looking for a lightweight, stiff bar/stem combo. I'm looking at both the deda newton os and the ttt zepp xl. I've heard horror stories of newton faceplates cracking and bolts stripping. Anyone have any opinions on either of these stems, or any other suggestions. Thanks- Adam
Newton is a poor choice for it's namegirodebirdman
Aug 17, 2001 11:38 PM
because Sir Issac wouldn't have been dumb enough to spec "stupid light" parts. I can't speak about the Zepp, but I have had problems with the Newton, and I am not the only one. The Ti bolts are real soft: combined with the soft magnesium alloy, things strip real easily. I replaced my ti bolts with steel. Also, one of my handlebar clamp bolts was shorter than the rest (unknown to me before I swapped them out), nevertheless, when tightening down the short bolt (mistake from the factory) the threads promptly stripped out. Fortunately, I soon realized that the bolt was about 4mm shorter than the others, so when I replace it with the steel bolts of correct length, it has managed to tighten. Still, I am worried. If it were me, I would go with the Deda Magic stem, which is the same weight but w/out the ti bolts. No need to spend the extra dough, especially when you are likely to just swap them out for steel.
I had a ZeppLive Steam
Aug 18, 2001 12:01 PM
I stripped the bore holes for the faceplate on mine. I foolishly forgot to put a little grease on them. The Ti bolts sucked the threads right our. Light weight stuff needs to be installed with care. A torque wrench is a necessity! Live and learn!
re: newton horror storries, zepp?mike mcmahon
Aug 18, 2001 1:27 PM
I've put about 4000 miles on my Newton stem/bar and couldn't be happier with it. From what I've heard, broken face plates are a thing of the past since they were beefed up a little. As someone else mentioned, proper installation is important with the Newton as with any lightweight product.
use ti=prep on the bolts!DeGeared
Aug 18, 2001 2:44 PM
i have about 1000 miles on mine. no problems yet!
re: newton horror storries, zepp?girodebirdman
Aug 18, 2001 3:14 PM
Yeah, use ti prep (I did, it is necessary if you ever want to loosen your stem bolts down the road). Also, make sure your bolts are all the correct length: if you are given a short one like me, the threads are going to strip out no matter what you do. And make sure you tighten the faceplate down equally on both sides. A torque wrench is recommended, but I still feel that any part that has minimal tolerances that they regularly strip when a torque wrench isn't used is not user-friendly. There are plenty of stems out there at the same weight that are more user friendly (ITM Millenium, Ritchey WCS) and lighter!
re: newton horror storries, zepp?David Feldman
Aug 18, 2001 7:29 PM
Deda Newton stem: I stripped bolt holes in TWO when using ti antisieze and following instructions to the letter. I am a 25 year + mechanic, if I break something once it's my fault--break it twice and that's bad product. The Deda Newton stem is a fraudulent piece of scrap metal that takes an idiot to buy and a crook to sell. It should not be on the market. Truly a "stupid light" piece of equipment.
re: newton horror storries, zepp?David Feldman
Aug 18, 2001 7:30 PM
PS, a nice alternative is the Ritchey WCS. I am told by a friend who works for Ritchey that they will be selling a 31.8mm version in 2002.
re: newton horror storries, zepp?Alvaro Dellera
Aug 21, 2001 4:50 AM
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