|explain mavic Helium vs. open pro's||flag|
Aug 17, 2001 11:37 AM
|so mavic no longer makes Helium's, at least as far as i know. i haven't studied their product line very well and i'm wondering if anybody knows what they have replaced them with? also i recently read in a Excel catalog that open pro's are essentially the exact same rim as heliums, execpt that OP's have 32 holes and i believe Heliums had only 28, but i could be wrong. So what does a guy who wants something very similar to Heliums do? thanks|
|re: explain mavic Helium vs. open pro's||fraserk|
Aug 17, 2001 12:33 PM
|Open Pros are Mavic's road rims whereas the Helium is a complete wheel - Mavic stopped making Heliums last year. You can get Open Pros in various spoke drillings - check the website. The Ksyrium is Mavic's replacement light road wheel - good wheel but more expensive. Suggest you also look at Campagnolo Electrons or Protons - they're now available in both Campag and Shimano cassette and don't have the problem of Mavic's stupid cassette that isn't compatible with anything else. The latest Electron / Proton is most pretty tough and generally Campagnolo offer one of the best spares back-ups. I know there can be a problem getting spares for Mavic wheels.|
|Go with the Open Pros and||Lazyrider|
Aug 17, 2001 1:16 PM
|save the rest of your money. Open Pros have proven themselves year in and year out. They are not that much heavier (if built with dura ace hubs) and are definitely more durable for everyday training or racing. I was too heavy for the Heliums but I liked them. The Ksyriums are supposed to be good, but I think they are ugly. The price differnece is substantial from Open pros, but the Ksyriums are more durable than the Heliums. The Ksyriums should be more durable than the Heliums for everyday riding than the Heliums were especially if you are a bigger rider. I miss the traditional look of the Heliums which I still get with my Open Pros.|
|Open Pro Crash survivor||MeDotOrg|
Aug 17, 2001 4:42 PM
|Had a pair of Open Pros built at Sdeals.com in England (chorus hubs, dt swiss spokes). Hit the back of an Infinity going around 18 mph. 10 stiches on my chin. $1400 worth of damage to the Infinity. My chromoly frame is toast.
The Open Pros are still perfectly true.
|re: explain mavic Helium vs. open pro's||grzy mnky|
Aug 17, 2001 1:49 PM
|Buy either a set of Open Pro's or Ksyriums depending on your budget and if you want to go up or down the technology continuum.|
|re: explain mavic Helium vs. open pro's||flag|
Aug 17, 2001 1:56 PM
|thanks for the info. i didn't realize you could get open pro's with diff. whole configurations. you see i only weigh 135 lbs. so even though i ride hard its damn tough for me to wreck all but the lightest wheels. the heliums were perfect for small riders who wanted traditional wheels. i think i'll get a set of OP's. thanks|
|one more option.||JohnG|
Aug 17, 2001 9:42 PM
|Not trying to really sell you on this idea but you really should look at Velocity aeroheads also. I've got a set of open pros and aeroheads and the AH's are just a tricker set of wheels. They're a tiny bit lighter and they certainly look more aero.
Rumor has it that Velocity is releasing a new 25mm rim soon. :) Oh, check out American Classic Bike? they build the AH wheels on their ultra light hubs. If you ride Shimano then you can get a super light wheelset this way.