|Any female specific road bikes out there?||Grrrl|
Aug 16, 2001 12:13 PM
|I need to get a new bike but I'm going to look closely at what I buy. I was thinking I have to try these "female specific" rides just in case. Thanks for you help.
|trek makes woman specific bikes, i think they are called WSD,NM||GTrider215|
Aug 16, 2001 12:21 PM
|check out www.trekbikes.com||jjay|
Aug 16, 2001 1:11 PM
|re: Any female specific road bikes out there?||wol|
Aug 16, 2001 12:42 PM
|Sure are: http://www.terrybicycles.com/Bikes/bikes.lasso|
|Check w/Terry--that's all they do. (nm)||cory|
Aug 16, 2001 12:49 PM
|re: Any female specific road bikes out there?||Cliff Oates|
Aug 16, 2001 1:18 PM
|Bianchi sells the Eros in women's sizes also. http://www.bianchiusa.com|
Aug 16, 2001 1:20 PM
|They have made Feminine models in the past. Don't know if they still do...
Terrys and Treks are good because they allow for much shorter top tubes for a given seat tube length.
We are also looking for a road bike for my GF and my related question would be: Does anyone make bars narrower than 40cm?
|yes, but beware! (I have issues)||lonefrontranger|
Aug 16, 2001 1:24 PM
|"Women specific" bikes are somewhat hype, somewhat based in fact. Trek does a decent job with their WSD line and I really do like their short reach brake lever ideas. BUT the big axe I have to grind with them is that they tend to cheap out on the components. Most of the manufacturers I've dealt with over the years who do women's specific stuff seem to think that gals who ride bikes (a) could give a flyin' about quality and (b) have two favorite colors: pink or purple (gimmeabreak!).
If you're just looking for a good riding bike, and don't have component envy (I'm a pretty dedicated racer) then by all means look at the WSD or some of the other mfgrs. (Cannondale for example) who do small frames and cater to women.
I *really* have issues with Terry, but I've aired them here before and pi$$ed off a bunch of Terry fundamentalists, so I'll keep my trap shut.
I'm 5'4" and need a 49cm frame (the smallest typical stock size). Since I refuse to compromise on quality or selection, what I did was go with a stock geometry that runs proportionately shorter in the top tube (most European bikes do - I got a Colnago but you don't have to spend this much for 'short' geometry). Then I put a 10cm stem and Deda women's short-reach bar on. Perfect! Since I have Ergo (Campagnolo) anyway, the reach on the levers is much shorter than STI (Shimano).
Relief at last. No more backaches, neck pain or saddle sores from being way too stretched out on bikes I've already got the seatpost jacked beyond max on.
|The Spouse thinks like LFR....||JohnnyA|
Aug 16, 2001 2:26 PM
|My wife went with a Pinarello. I think it is a 48-inch frame with 650 cm wheels. She absolutely loves it. I'm not wild about the odd wheelsize, but then again it's not my bike (and I'm mega-jealous). |
Say LFR, I didn't know the Ergo has shorter reach than the STI, the Deda bars are also new to me. Your, post is making my Christmas shopping easy, but my wallet lighter.
|It took me a while to find the bars||lonefrontranger|
Aug 16, 2001 3:02 PM
|plus I'm having a brain cramp trying to recall the model name, it's something suitably girly like Diva etc... All I know is that it was the same weird clamp spec as my Newton stem, and was lightweight, which was my goal.
There are other suppliers out there who do short-reach bars, since juniors have little hands too. Anything short-reach will do as long as it's not too narrow - many women don't care how aero they are, and prefer the stability of a 40 or even 42cm bar.
As far as the Ergo reach, it's always been shorter than STI, PLUS you don't have the issues folks with small hands do (I do) with braking as you're trying to shift (the outside lever on Ergo doesn't move). But it's up to the individual whether they like the feel of Ergo or STI better. Some folks like those big long knobby hoods - and some people absolutely despise the thumb shifter on the Ergo levers, small hands or no.
As far as 650c wheels, just stock up on tubes. Lots of itty bitty gals on the elite racing circuit use them because they make for better geometry (no ultra-slack seat tube just to fit the wheel in the frame).
You're just jealous because you can't borrow her nice wheels, right? My boyfriend is already eyeballing my Zipp 303's - hmmm, maybe *I* should have gone 650 (he tears up wheels).
Aug 16, 2001 2:34 PM
|Terry, IMHO, uses feminism as a marketing ploy to sell mediocre bikes to women at unnecessarily high prices. (Yes, I'm a woman rider). So, I'd look elsewhere. You'll get more bang for the buck from Trek or Cannondale, along with a truer heritage (Terry's latest gimmick is the straight handlebars on road bikes for our delicate little female backs).
First, unless you are unusually petite (below 5'1") there are many small stock frames that MAY fit you (the nuances of fit is for another post but suffice to say, emphasize REACH every bit as much as standover). You can go all the way down to a 47 cm Trek, for example, and keep 700 cc wheels. The bike shop can help size you for handlebar width, stem length, crankarm length, etc.
Anyway, you can see how I feel about Terry as a woman rider. I only buy their (her) saddles, which are excellent. But you can look at small sizes off-the-rack and then check out the WSD bikes from Trek.
|Agree with the Terry rants||Kristin|
Aug 16, 2001 3:03 PM
|I'll throw in my $0.02 about Terry bikes. I was really unimpressed. Several people made a good point about the tire size. If you ever decide to do a long ride, have a bad day and end up flat with no tubes...how many people are going to come by with a 26c spare? If I had to choose between toe overlap (toe hitting the front wheel on tight turns) and small tires, I'd take the overlap. Actaully, I did take the overlap and its no big deal.
I really liked the Trek 2300WSD bike. Fit beautifully. But for what comes on it, $1700 was a rip off. I supose it costs more to manufacture cuz they don't make as many ...yada yada yada...and they gotta make their money back somehow. But it sucks. Why can't they just sell the frames???
Oh the injustices of being female!!! *sigh*
|glad to see I'm not alone||lonefrontranger|
Aug 17, 2001 7:10 AM
|The 2300 is indeed a cool bike. Mine was a total jackhammer and I couldn't ride it for more than 2 hours without total pain and suffering. (I had major fit issues because it was an overly-long men's frame, but that's another can o'worms).
It's ironic that the two major mfgrs (Trek, Cannondale) that do cater to small women's sizes both use super-beefy OS aluminum tubesets that are fabulous for big guys, but just plain overbuilt for a 120-lb gal. It'll be good to see Trek do the WSD OCLV bike. Had that option existed 3 years ago, I might not have a Colnago :)
As far as Terry rants, I know I promised to keep my trap shut, but I just can't resist. My prime #1 issue with the small front wheel designs is that they are categorically DANGEROUS. They handle like a squirrel on crack, and it's much easier to go over the bars on that design - something I feel is terribly irresponsible to market to the rookie riders who make up Terry's demographic. I saw a teenage girl break her collarbone & get a major concussion at a century because she went over the bars on a Terry "lopro", in a situation that should have caused a slide and perhaps a skinned knee at worst.
Foot overlap is startling but not that dangerous when it occurs (typically only at very low speeds), generally never occurs in 99% of riding situations, and will *never* put you over the handlebars like that freaky "lopro" design will. This is an extreme example of a marketing gimmick trying to fix a problem that never existed in the first place.
IMO, if you're that small, just go to 650c wheels front and back, because the seat tube geometry is going to be totally whacked trying to fit that 700c wheel in anyhow. Plus the issues of finding / carrying 2 different tube sizes, tires, etc. etc.
|Preach it Sister!! : )||jtolleson|
Aug 17, 2001 9:09 AM
|here's a few options for ya||rib-eye|
Aug 16, 2001 3:13 PM
|Here's some info I found online...
Trek's WSD (womens specific design) road bikes: 2000WSD, 2200WSD, and 2300WSD
Bianchi Brava and Eros.
Merlin has a shorter top tube option and 650c-wheel bikes.
Calfee also make womens specific frames and bikes.
|re: Any female specific road bikes out there?||harlett|
Aug 16, 2001 3:31 PM
|I see alot of Female Pro racers on Lemonds(nm)||Lone Gunman|
Aug 16, 2001 3:59 PM
Aug 17, 2001 4:56 AM
|The WSD OCLVs should be out for the 2002 model year. I would think frameset only would be an option if you want to go high end. IMO, Terrys are tanks. And who wants to carry 2 different sized tubes around? As far as the women pros ride X, well, most women pros are not that small and many would get custom geometry anyway.|
|re: Any female specific road bikes out there?||Bart S.|
Aug 17, 2001 5:18 AM
|Bianchi EROS per Donna - a model specificly designed for female riders.|| |