|workplace harassment||bike n veg|
Aug 14, 2001 4:40 AM
|I'm getting a hard time for coming to the office in bike clothes. I change as soon as I get my work clothes out of my office, but I get comments as I head down the hallways to the lockerroom. A female co-worker says I look "x-rated in my speedos." I wear regular black bike shorts and regular bright red or yellow bike shirt. What's the deal? Anyone else experience this?|
|re: workplace harassment||Miklos|
Aug 14, 2001 5:08 AM
|I think she wants you!
|wear baggy shorts over your bike shorts! (nm)||alex the engineer|
Aug 14, 2001 5:24 AM
|I do the same thing and...||MrCelloBoy|
Aug 14, 2001 6:34 AM
|I have to consider that wearing tight cycling shorts could be construed as sexual harassment by others if they felt that my exhibition of my easily defined package was more than they can handle. I just try to keep a low profile and not flaunt it. (I have a biker-babe girlfrend already!)
Like another person noted. They're jealous of your doing something that's not the "norm".
|re: workplace harassment||Spinchick|
Aug 14, 2001 6:41 AM
|Are you sure her comment that you look x-rated is a negative? Depending upon how you look in your bike shorts, I couldn't imagine complaining about a guy walking past my desk in spandex. Of course, I go for that look...|
|re: depends on company||cyclopathic|
Aug 14, 2001 6:47 AM
|in some places would be totally ok to ignore comment.
Some companies do get into sexual harassment paranoia, so you'd better run to HR and file sexual harassment before she does.
keeping low profile wouldn't hurt
|Harassment rule of thumb||Shad|
Aug 14, 2001 7:19 AM
|A female friend gave me her definition of sexual harassment this way: |
If he/she is ugly, it's harassment. If he/she is hot, it's welcome flirting and harmless.
Sounds pretty shallow, but there is some truth to it since the perception of the harassee is what defines harassment. Sounds to me like the woman at work is yours for the er, "plucking."
Aug 14, 2001 7:21 AM
|I ride at lunch. When I finish, I have to walk my bike and my smelly, be-lycraed carcass through the kitchen area that is sometimes filled with female co-workers. I always get a few catcalls and whistles, but I know it's all in fun. These people are my friends, and it never goes any further than that.
It is not harassment unless their actions create a threatening, hostile, or intimidating work environment. This is why sexual harassment is so subjective. The actions that one person perceives or feels are harassing may not affect others that way.
Aug 14, 2001 8:11 AM
|An important word when discussing harassment is "unwanted." If the comments bother you, they are unwanted. You must ask them (or their supervisor) to stop, and if they don't, then it typically becomes harassment to some degree. But you must make it clear that you want the comments to stop.
If you like it, or at least see it as harmless fun, then it isn't harassment.
Aug 14, 2001 7:54 AM
|If your female co-worker's comments are bothering, then inform her about the negative impact of her comments and politely ask her to stop. If she does not stop, then her behavior is creating a hostile workplace and you should take it up with your supervisor. Regardless, the first step is to inform her that her comments are not welcomed. There is some good background information in an article on sexual harassment that myself and a colleague published earlier this year in Radical Pedagogy. The article is available online at: http://radicalpedagogy.icaap.org/content/issue3_1/03Whatley.html|
Aug 14, 2001 8:01 AM
|Lets assume you work in a company where harrassment is taken seriously, most large companies do. If she has told you that you look x-rated because she is offended, and has done it more than one time you will have to do something about it. On the other hand if she likes how you look and has told you about your speedos more than one time, she may be harassing you. If it was a one time comment and there is no pattern you should not worry about it.|
|Want to get a real rise out||Lone Gunman|
Aug 14, 2001 9:04 AM
|Of her? Get some racy red or white bike shorts, that'll put her over the edge!|
|"You look X rated in that tight top"||ParkerP|
Aug 14, 2001 9:22 AM
|Ask her if she would find it offensive if a man said that to her. |
Then remind her that she's in control of her own eye balls.
|Moon her (nm)||Dekester|
Aug 14, 2001 9:24 AM
|re: workplace harassment||Dario Frigo|
Aug 14, 2001 2:50 PM
|bike n veg |
take her to the edge
use a twig, a stick or a round piece of lumber
but of course your a veg, please use a cucumber
it will bulge in your shorts, it will fit real tight
but the next time she sees you, she'll say "My what a sight"
look at her eyes, see if they freeze
especially if, it hangs to your knees
now ask her if, you still look x-rated
but she'll probably say, "I'm quite elated"
|Very nice! (nm)||look271|
Aug 14, 2001 3:54 PM
|Hey, the cucumber...||Lone Gunman|
Aug 14, 2001 6:34 PM
|goes in the front, you idiot!!|
|re: workplace harassment||mr tornado head|
Aug 14, 2001 7:34 PM
|Yeah, the young kids start laughing. So I say, "Go get *your* shorts on and let's compare legs." They usually go "Um, no, well..."
Of course, my other answer is "Yeah, I ride the bike that far. The question is, why don't you?"
No cat calls from the kittys, tho. Well, a few but none worth bragging about...
|re: workplace harassment||bike n veg|
Aug 16, 2001 5:14 AM
|Thanks for all messages. Some great advice and even some poetry. My conclusion is that this probably isn't sexual harassment, but it does make me feel more self-conscious. But I'm not going to stop riding to work, and since it's 14 miles each way, I'm not going to stop riding in my bike clothes. And hey, I can't help it if I look x-rated. All avid road cyclists have great bodies...|
|all avid road cyclists have great bodies...||Spinchick|
Aug 17, 2001 4:57 AM
|Ahem....where is it you say you work? Wait, that's not harassment is it?|| |