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Here we go again, boutique wheel questions....K's or Speeddr(12 posts)

Here we go again, boutique wheel questions....K's or Speeddrkeith m.
Aug 13, 2001 7:36 AM
I just found out that I won a new Anvil custom bike frame. The frame will be built up according to my specs over the next few weeks. I'll be using Campy record group. I would like some input on which wheelset to get. Want to keep it around $500 so it's come down to Ksyruims or Speeddream aerolites. I figure with rim tape the weight of the Speeddreams will be close to the K's. Any input?
fashionHank
Aug 13, 2001 7:53 AM
what's your Anvil gonna look like? If you're going for a sloping tt and a carbon fork, the Mavics might look good. If you're going for a more conventional frameset, maybe the Speeddreams. I, of course, think both are a waste of money compared to hand built wheels--but what the heck, the frame's free. Congrats and enjoy!
Congrats on winning...PsyDoc
Aug 13, 2001 8:26 AM
...the Anvil Bikeworks "design-the-new" headbadge contest. What does the winning design look like? Can you post it here?
Congrats on winning...keith m.
Aug 13, 2001 2:02 PM
I will post or give a link to see the winning design after it is posted by Anvil on the Cycling Tech Forum first, out of respect to them being a sponsor there and offering the contest on that website. Thanks for the congrats. I will keep everyone up to date on the custom frame process via Anvil bikes.
KsyriumsDog
Aug 13, 2001 8:33 AM
I have both. The Ksyriums are 10 times, at least, I'd say, more durable than the Speeddreams. I had some Speeddreams "custom" built at a local shop, and they've been a nightmare of loosening spokes and going out of true. Maybe the builder is bad, but nonetheless, I believe the small guage spokes used present some inherent problems.

On the other hand, I've put about 20,000 miles on Ksyriums, without a single problem. The are respectably light, decently aero, and bombproof.

Fashion is up to you.

Dog
Scary part ispeloton
Aug 13, 2001 8:41 AM
Doug put 20,000 miles on his Ksyrium's in the past three and a half weeks. Your mileage may vary.
Not a fair comparisonBipedZed
Aug 13, 2001 8:52 AM
"Speed Dreams" are really only such if they are built by Dave Thomas. The quality of a wheel is in part the components but it is primarily the skill of the builder. It sounds like your bike shop doesn't have a decent wheelbuilder and any wheel, even a Ksyrium tensioned by that guy would have problems.

That being said, I'm using my 2 year old Ksyriums for the upcoming cyclo-cross season with no qualms at all.
SpeeddreamsPaulCL
Aug 13, 2001 8:49 AM
First of all, congratulations on your win.

I own speeddreams..not built up "locally" but built by Dave Thomas himself. The only "problem" I have had with the wheels is getting squished in an airline bike box and having to be slightly re-trued. I have about 2000 miles on them since March. By the way, I am 6'1" and 185- 190lbs.

As for the weight comparison, Speeddreams win. Mine are just over 1400 grams versus 1600-1700 for the K's. Aerodynamics?: A tie. the rims have the same profile and both use bladed spokes. Price: If bought domestically the K's will cost $800. Overseas: $500. I didn't want to have the possibility of return hassles overseas. Dave Thomas guarantees the Speeddreams for two years. Compatability: Dave will make your wheelset with Campy hubs (like mine - Record). "Cool" factor: probably the K's - 'cause everyone has them now. They are great wheels.

I went through the same decision process earlier this year. The availablity domestically, weight, and the reputation of Dave Thomas sold me. I'm a very happy Speeddream oner. Paul
Dave Thomas?LC
Aug 13, 2001 9:22 AM
Is that the guy that makes those Wendy's Burgers?
YupPaulCL
Aug 13, 2001 12:10 PM
Wheeelsets...hamburgers...they're both round, aren't they??? Same basic technology. Make'em round, put them together right, sell 'em to the public.
Yupcapnjim01
Aug 13, 2001 3:16 PM
the hamburger it self is actually square. when ask about this dave thomas repelied that at wendys we don't cut corners
re: Here we go again, boutique wheel questions....K's or SpeeddrWoof the dog
Aug 13, 2001 8:35 PM
Buy Ksyriums, don't go for speeddreams (shhhh...they won't last for general riding. "I use them for racing and training as well" my a$$, who said that anyway.) Front microhub will likely become really rough. Rain will make the back hub become tight therefore needs constant adjustment. Water gets in the rim. VERY flexy side to side. Every bumb in a crit you'll hear it hit the breakpads. Good for climbing and racing only. Since they are higly tensioned and you make them go out of true, it will be very hard to correct the problem. Sincerely
Woof hte dog