|Fantastique`!! Jalabert and the San Sebastian!||Largo|
Aug 11, 2001 4:54 PM
JaJa totally deserves this victory. Still a great rider.
Makes me wonder, if Jalabert can make it to this race after having a great TDF, why can't LA?
Was Jalabert any less fatigued after the TDF?
Anyway, he has had some tough luck, and seeing him win was awesome.
|Maybe he didn't want to ?||James1|
Aug 11, 2001 9:12 PM
|What makes you think he couldn't do it if he really wanted to? Makes me wonder if you think Jaja is a better conditioned rider than Lance?|
|Where did you get that idea?||Largo|
Aug 12, 2001 5:16 AM
|No where did i imply this. All i said was that if Jalabert could recover from the Tour, so could LA.
Bottom line is i am a fan of RACING, and the TDF is not the only race in the world, although some seem to believe this to be true.
I simply want to see the likes of LA and Ulrich in more races, it makes it more exiting.
|Where did you get that idea?||Pb_okole|
Aug 12, 2001 7:00 AM
|Has Jalabert been on a trans-atlantic press junket since two days after the tour ended? Like it or not, PROFESSIONAL bicycle racing is driven by sponsorship. Most of LA's sponsors are stateside and don't really care about anything but Le Tour, thus that is his primary responsibility. Not just the race itself but all the stateside public appearances as well. This is HIS job. Does he come to your place of business and tell you how to do your job? If you are truly a fan of racing, then you will enjoy it despite the fact that LA is not there. I loved the Paris-Roubaix and all the classics this year and the venerable LA was nowhere to be seen. I love the sport, not just a few riders. Get used to the fact that Armstrong will probably target the Tour for the rest of his career. He is paid almost exclusively to win this race. I'd be willing to bet that there are 20 other teams that rode the Tour this year that would be glad to sign him with the stipulation that his main focus is the Tour. He doesn't need to ride anything else. If this makes him a lesser rider in your eyes, it's your problem not his. He's doing what he is paid to do and I applaud his efforts.
Ua mau ke ea o ka aina I ka pono
|And this is why bike racing is losing its soul.||Largo|
Aug 12, 2001 11:55 AM
|It is increasingly becoming more about pleasing the sponsors, and in a place such as the States, where the TDF is the ONLY race as far as anyone is concerned, then thats where all the focus will be.
Its like how Junior "A" hockey is more entertaining to watch than NHL.
Every game is important, unlike the NHL where all the games are boring until the play-offs.
The point is, LA shouldn't have to go back to the states and do the schmooze-a-thon session, to a lot of corporations, and a president, that don't give a sh*t about biking, only about the bottom line.
Hell, Bush probably doesn't have a clue about where the Pyrenees are, much less what the TDF is.
IMO, having all the stars duking it out month after month would be great.
Forget this specialist crap.
|And this is why bike racing is losing its soul.||SteveS|
Aug 12, 2001 3:19 PM
|Once more an uncalled for stupid statement. At least you are consistant.|
|Taking this a tad seriously Steve?||Largo|
Aug 12, 2001 3:54 PM
|Why is this an uncalled for stupid statement?
Nothing like calling names while hiding behind the anonymity of the net, eh?
These views are nothing but my own, and probably others as well.
What is wrong with wanting to see LA race more? He is an amazing rider and i would love to see him, and Ullrich, compete in more races.
If it bothers you that others have different ideas than you, perhaps you should seek appropriate help.
|this is why Jalabert is my favorite rider||Hank|
Aug 12, 2001 10:36 AM
|he's not such a specialist. He's a bike racer. You also never know what's he's gonna do. Lance is kind of like Cippolini (and before someone flames me, I like Lance and Cippo). Those guys are specialists--Cippo is a sprinter specialist, Lance is a Tour GC specialist. Lance's season is the Tour. Bike racing is increasingly a sport of specialists--that's why Jalabert is so cool.|
|How times have changed||EN|
Aug 12, 2001 11:28 AM
|Before Lances bout with cancer he was classified as a classics type of strongman; the type of guy that could/would gut it out through the brutal single day events. The tougher the better for Lance. I have no doubt that he could compete for the World Cup title if he wanted to. The simple fact is that the Tour de France is worth more money to the winner than the World Cup winner. What would you do?|
|How times have changed||Hank|
Aug 12, 2001 11:39 AM
|I think Lance is doing the right thing. And yes, he has turned into a different (and better) rider since cancer. I loved his ride in the World Championships, what, eight years ago already? I think a large part of his motivation to focus on the Tour comes from the fact that he's an American--I've heard him say about fifty times that the only bike race most people have heard of in the U.S. is the TDF (this is also why he seems very worried about getting a gold medal). It also allows him to spend more time in this country, and less time in Europe.|
|I've heard it all now!||James1|
Aug 12, 2001 11:49 AM
|Sure I agree that Cippo is a specialist. But- I don't think I've ever heard of a Tour GC specialist. I'd say that those with the ability to win the Tour are the all around best and most well rounded riders, but not "specialists" My two cents. I like also JaJa by the way.|
Aug 12, 2001 12:16 PM
|I was probably going out on a limb there...but who else besides maybe Indurain has devoted himself so exclusively to the Tour?|| |