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Please don't bash me too hard!(12 posts)

Please don't bash me too hard!Deadeye
Aug 10, 2001 3:31 AM
Now I know I'm not supposed to buy a cheap bike, but I'm going to, either new or used. I'd prefer a new one. When I sort the road bike reviews by price I see 9 bikes for under $400. And there are a few bikes listed here by reputable manufacturers. Are these price typo's or are these bikes out there somewhere? When I search the web for them, I've not been able to confirm any of these prices. Please don't give me the cheap bike lesson because I know it well. The problem is I literally have only so much money. This bike will probably see only a couple hundred miles a year because I spend most of the time in the woods on my $700 Trek. Thanks.
re: Please don't bash me too hard!Rusty McNasty
Aug 10, 2001 3:51 AM
If you are looking for a new bike for that kind of riding, you will probably be best served with a hybrid, not a road bike. There are too many available to get into here, and none of us are likely to be very interested in any of them. Just avoid the cheap-$h!t ones (huffy, k-mart, wal-mart, sears, etc), and get one from a bike shop-not a mass-retailer. You may want to try a more "pedestrian" website (like bicycleforum) for advice.
Aug 10, 2001 5:00 AM
make sure you get a brooks saddle!
yes, a B66 would work nice (nm)Rusty McNasty
Aug 10, 2001 8:57 AM
re: Please don't bash me too hard!Rich Clark
Aug 10, 2001 4:28 AM
I saw a Diamondback Interval at Dick's Sporting Goods for $400 the other day. This is sort of a blend of a low-end aluminum touring bike and a hybrid. It has drop bars, Sora levers, cranks, and FD, and an Alivio RD. But it has an adjustable stem, a cheap suspension seatpost, a tractor seat, and what looked like 700x38c hybrid tires.

It's almost identical to the Raleigh R300, by the way -- RaleighUSA and Diamondback are both Derby Bikes brands.

If you know enough about bikes to disassemble this and reassemble it properly, and if they had the right frame size, this is actually not a bad buy IMO, assuming it's a suitable style.

What size frame do you need?bianchi boy
Aug 10, 2001 4:48 AM
Hey, I've got a mid-1980s Schwinn Super LeTour with downtube shifters, 12-speed, that I'll sell you for $200 plus shipping. It's my wife's old bike but she never rides it anymore. It probably has less than 500 miles on it. I'm not sure of the frame size, but it's probably about 56 cm center-to-center. Bright red. Send me an e-mail if you're interested.

Seriously, though, you ought to be able to buy a nice used bike with down-tube shifters for much less than $400. There are tons of people out there who buy nice road bikes, ride them a few times, and then stick them in the garage and never ride anymore. It's not the most up-to-date technology, but hey, a lot of us old farts rode bikes with down tube shifters for years and years. I saw a very nice Celeste mid-80s Bianchi that sold for about $350 on eBay the other day. It was exactly the same model as my old Bianchi, which I still ride. I recently upgraded the frame with an Ultegra group, but it served me fine for 16 years with the old stuff.

If you buy a used bike, just make sure and leave some money in your budget for maintenance and new parts. You'll probably need a new saddle and tires, maybe a different size stem, and probably a good tune-up at your LBS.
What size frame do you need?VW
Aug 10, 2001 8:44 AM
Hey bianchi boy,

A friend of mine just gave me an 80's Bianchi (unfortunately it is black and not Celeste). It has some Japanese double-butted chro-moly tubings, sew-up wheels with Suntour Superb hubs, Suntour Superb derailluers (12 speed) with downtube shifters, Shimano 600 crank, Grand Compe sidepull brakes.

I just recently upgraded my Trek5000 with Ultegra triple, so I'm left with the whole 8 spd Shimano 105 drive train (cassette, F/R derailluers, chain, crank, bottom bracket, brake level/shifters). I'm thinking if I buy a new set of wheels and brake calipers for my Trek, then I will have all I need to build-up the Bianchi with 105's (for its convenient index shifting).

Is that do-able? Will the back wheels fit the rear stays? Will the 105 bottom bracket fit the Bianchi? If I don't buy new brake calipers, will the 105 brake level work well with the Grand Compe (Campy Neuvo-record(sp?) copy) calipers?

I think the Bianchi with the 15's should be a nice riding casual bike.

Here's what I did ...bianchi boy
Aug 10, 2001 11:09 AM
My Bianchi is a circa 1985 Nuovo Record made in Italy. It originally had Campy NR derailleurs and a mixture of other parts, Ofmega cranks, Universal brakes, Ambrosia wheels and Michie hubs.

I was able to swap the entire Ultegra 9-speed group from a 1999 Bianchi Alloro, with minimal hassles. Actually, my bike shop did the work. All of the new parts swapped OK, except I had to buy a new bottom bracket because the Ultegra was English thread and the old Bianchi frame Italian. The Ultegra brakes, amazingly, fit perfect because my LBS had some old mounting bolts that fit. I installed a new headset because the one on my old frame was pretty beat up. I also bought a new stem and bars that fit me better size-wise, and a new cassette and chain.

My bike shop charged me $270 for the whole job, parts, labor and tax. Some of the parts I had bought elsewhere, so that saved me a little cash, but I paid full retail for the BB, headset and misc parts. The end result is a classic, lugged Celeste frame with all new components. It's heavier than a contemporary frame, but nicer-looking (in my view) and more comfortable riding. I'll post a photo some time soon.

BTW, your black Bianchi frame would look real sharp with some Celeste bar tape, saddle, bottle cages, etc. -- all available at the web site.
Here's what I did ...VW
Aug 11, 2001 5:48 AM
Thanks for the info! This time, I'll probably do it myself since I already let the LBS ungraded my Trek with Ultegra triple last time. I think it will be a fun project, and I will learn alot about putting a bike together. This will come in handy when I build my future dream bike.

By the way, my LBS didn't tune my bike very well (clicking all over the place), and I already spent all night yesterday figuring out how to get it tune. I think I was successful ... atleast under no load conditions. I'm going out now to give it a test ride.

Thanks again, happy cycling!
re: Please don't bash me too hard!crashdog
Aug 10, 2001 5:10 AM
I say more power to you - if you know you are only gonna do a couple hundred - why go top of the line? You know what you want. You need to actually go out and ride a few of them... better yet - BUY USED!! for a couple hundred miles a year - why pay the new sticker price?
re: Please don't bash me too hard!jtolleson
Aug 10, 2001 6:22 AM
You can get a decent (for your purposes) used road bike for under $400. Last year I sold an old Bianchi Brava that I had put STI shifters on (RSX components), a cyclocomputer, and Shimano M535 pedals, for $300. The buyer was happy, I was happy. That stuff's around. Just remember that buying online you'll pay shipping.

The main thing is to get the right SIZE and that there be no FRAME DAMAGE.

I'd disagree with the advice that you get a hybrid. If you are going to do that you can save the dough and just get slicks and use your mtn. bike on the road for those 200 or so miles a year. I assume you want a traditional road bike for the extra speed.

And rather than referring you to another website (more "pedestrian?" How completely patronizing) I'd say get the descriptions of the specific bikes you are looking at, and some of us would be glad to give you our two cents.
You may also want to check your LBS for used bikes.look271
Aug 11, 2001 3:30 PM
I bought my 1st road bike (since I was a kid) from a bike shop for $400. It was an old C-dale w/7 speed shifters and decent wheels and 105 components(This was about 8 yrs ago.) Decent used bikes are out there and would likely serve you well. Mine did.Good luck, and no, you don't need to find another forum. MOST of us here welcome you, including myself!