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Considering the 508(7 posts)

Considering the 508Thioderek
Aug 9, 2001 6:45 AM
Is there anyone out there who can give me some insight on the 508?

How bad are the hills? It seems they are downplayed quite a bit on the website.

Is the heat that bad during the day?

How cold does it get at night?

How many pairs of shorts do you use on the ride?

A crew of 2 or 3?

What is the qualifying time for the RAAM invitation?

I already have a training routine that was worked up for me last week when I sat down with a trainer that has trained teams and individuals for RAAM and other endurance events. I am still wavering on doing it though. I need more insight as to the entire ordeal-the pain, suffering and all the good stuff that comes with it.

I need a push.
508 infoDog
Aug 9, 2001 8:23 AM
First, read everything at the 508 website. There's a huge amount of info there.

The worst hill, I hear, is Townes Pass, at around 200 miles. I rode it this spring. It's long, but not steep. There is 30,000 feet of climbing, but none really steep. Out in the desert, they tend to be long, 5-10% grades. The descent from Townes Pass to Death Valley is exciting. I hit 64 mph and stayed over 55 mph for 10 minutes.

Also check out some other websites:

Ultra Marathon Cycling Association, and the Topica Ultra Forum

There is a discussion there right now about the weather for the 508.

Qualifying time is to finish within 15% of the fastest non-previously RAAM qualified rider in your category. For men, that will likely work out to something around 35-37 hours.

Crew of 2 is minimum, but 3 is suggested. Three allows someone to sleep a little at night.

This event is as much about mental toughness as riding fast. Gotta just stay on the bike and keep going then entire time. Issues such as saddle, foot, and neck comfort become critical. Eating while riding hard becomes a big deal. The logistics in a way become as important as the riding.

You'll likely get more info at the Topica site.

another good descriptionDog
Aug 9, 2001 8:42 AM
Here's a play-by-play by Peter Pop, who's done it all. I rode with him during the 508 spring tour this year. He's very helpful.

Thinking about next years goals.........Len J
Aug 9, 2001 11:20 AM
and want to find out more on extended endurance cycling. While the 508 is probably several years away (if ever), I want to point towards events longer than a century. Besides the sites you've recommended, are thier any good books on this (Any Bibles, like freil's is to race training).

Input would be appreciated.

some ideasDog
Aug 9, 2001 12:05 PM
Best thing to do is to joing the UMCA; the link was in my first message; then, order all the back issues of their magazine.

There is a book called the Complete Book of Long Distance Cycling, that is not bad. I did not really find it complete, but it's a good start.

What would your avg.speed have to be to qualify?STEELYeyed
Aug 9, 2001 8:02 PM
Aug 10, 2001 5:44 AM
Around 14-15 mph. But, that's not so easy, considering 30,000 feet or so of climbing, heat, going all night, bad roads, cross winds and head winds, and it includes all stops. To get that speed, riders are typically riding over 20 mph on the flats.