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Help I am slow(14 posts)

Help I am slowRev. Litespeed
Aug 8, 2001 2:15 PM
I am a new rider I have riden since the middle of june have logged 850 miles last week I rode 80 on monday 40 with 4 mountians 1-2 miles long on wed and 100 one mountian hilly on sat I have lost 20 pounds down from 220 to 198 5'11 20 more to go. I have noticed it seems to take along time for me to start feeling good on the bike 1 hour plus to get warmed up. I felt better on my first century (self guided century rode with only one other guy on mtb) during the last 50 then the first 50. I feel like I should be getting faster but I am still slow I rode once about 450 mile into the 850 with a group of fast riders they pulled me for 50 miles over a hilly course and we averaged 17.5 ( I was holding them back) I can after 20-30 miles push big gears and avarage 20ish for 3 or 4 miles but then I die back to like 15-16. What can I do I bought Lances book and I am thinking about buying a HR monitor I have even thought it might be my wheels are worn but I seem to cost as fast as every body else so I know it is just me any Ideas would help other then just ride I have been doing that Thanks
Are you serious??dinky
Aug 8, 2001 2:23 PM
You have ridden 850 miles in a month and a half and you are a new rider??? I think that is pretty impressive. It sounds like you are being hard on yourself. Rev., Rome wasn't built in a day. If this is for real then you will have all of the speed that you need sooner than the rest of us mere mortals.
Are you serious??Rev. Litespeed
Aug 8, 2001 2:34 PM
I have ridden 100 miles a week with one 240 mile week I have ridden I think 9 weeks 8 or 9 weeks anyway about 100 miles a week I have ridde 3 or 4 times a week not so immortal but slow thanks though
Are you serious??dinky
Aug 8, 2001 2:42 PM
Well, it sounds like you are doing well. I wasn't able to put in that kind of mileage when I first started roading (sore butt, hands, legs..blah blah) and I was exceptionally slow. I don't think that I am fast now but time in the saddle, not mileage, has improved my speed over the months. Efficiency in my pedalling and learning how to really work the gears has helped with speed for me. But like I said, you seem to be pretty fit already...I'm certain that speed will be upon you soon. Does your computer have a cadence feature? That was helpful to me. Have fun!
Are you serious??Rev. Litespeed
Aug 8, 2001 2:56 PM
My computer is a flight deck I bought a Litespeed Natches used it had the computer on it and speed play pedels with ultegra group I got it for just under 1000 I was not sure how good that was but the fame has no marks hardly at all but it does have some miles on it I have expermented with cadance I leave it on that function most of the time I rode at a high cadance for the first 200 miles betwen like 90 - 110 lately I have been in the 80s I did have bad bottom and neck pain terry fly helped the bottom time has helped my neck I was in bad shape I needed to lose some wight that is why I started riding I rode road bikes when I was like 12 for one summer had a letour toe clips down tube shifters sold a moter bike to get it.
Whoa!dinky
Aug 8, 2001 3:15 PM
You averaged a cadence of 90-110 for 200 miles??? Um...the planet Kryton called and you are needed back home. This seems like a genuine post for the most part but I keep getting the feeling that either Lance is slumming and messing with us or you are the next big thing in cycling. If what you saying is true, you are quite the cyclist. I want to believe you but it is hard. Huh.
Whoa!Rev. Litespeed
Aug 8, 2001 3:28 PM
I have no motivation for lieing I did not stay at 100rpms all the time I tried I was spinning 39 25, 23 or 21 I thought I was suppose to pedel fast my friend who rides told me to slow down so I did I use to surge then die surge then die my friend taught me to push a bigger gear slower I have been doing that but then I watched the tour and old lance spins very fast also I rode with a guy on a walmart bike and he did the same thing he spun to fast I think that is common I told him to slow down I just do not see what so unbelieveable the guys I have ridden with are unbelieveable I can not hold a candel to them I will not even ride with that group I did the 50 mile ride with with because I just slowed them down all day and burnt myself to the point I was so sore I could not ride well for a couple of days 100 miles a week has not seemed that hard.
Whoa!wink
Aug 8, 2001 3:33 PM
It sounds like the Rev could be experiencing an "elbow" problem....if you know what I mean!
Are you serious??look271
Aug 8, 2001 2:45 PM
Just take it easy there, Rev. Speed will come with time. You are well on your way, if not too much so. Be careful that you don't over do it!My 1st year back on the bike I rode about 750 miles THAT YEAR and it seemed alot. Heart rate monitor would be a good investment. Read a Chris Charmichael's book on how to use one (there are other books as well). And really, 17.5 mph on a hilly route ain't too shabby.
Hmmm.MikeC
Aug 8, 2001 2:56 PM
What kind of bike are you riding, Rev. Litespeed? While I would never doubt a man of the cloth, I'd have to say I've never heard of a newbie with Litespeed in his name, who's ridden 850 miles in six or seven weeks, who's done a century already, and can average over 17 mph over a hilly course. And your "wheels" may be worn? You are truly a remarkable individual...
Hmmm.Rev. Litespeed
Aug 8, 2001 3:03 PM
I rode on some ones wheel at 17 see above for bike details also do you think that was a good deal? hilly also is a realative term the guy I rode with called it flat but to me it was hilly these guy average in the 20s though I do not know if my wheel are worn I seem to cost as fast as others so it is most likly just a slow rider any way thanks
PunctuateKerry Irons
Aug 8, 2001 5:32 PM
Your questions and comments would be a lot easier to understand if you would actually punctuate and capitalize your sentences. You've confused several people by your running sentences together.

That said, the way to gain speed is to work on speed intervals. Twice a week (with a couple of recovery rides in between) do something like 5 intervals - 3 minutes on, 3 minutes recovery. Go a little bit faster during the intervals than you want to be able to sustain. This will help you build the ability to go faster, and if you never ride faster, you won't get faster. It is easier to build speed this way than by just trying to "ride faster." Also, cycling is a sport that rewards persistence - you should not expect to be "fast" after 2 months. 2 years is more realistic. In the mean time, enjoy riding without worrying about how long it is going to take to reach some speed goal. You can have fun at any speed, and be pleased that you are progressing.
aerobic memoryspeedmaestro
Aug 8, 2001 7:16 PM
I lifted weights 4-5 times a week regularly for 8 years and stopped. When I started up again, within 4 months, I gained everthing back. This was due to muscle memory. If you don't understand the phrase, do not reply. Thank you.

Just as a 19 year old bodybuilder could never beat a 30 year old bodybuilder, a 20 year old road racer could never beat a 28 year old road racer, all things being equal. It takes years to develop muscle mass or aerobic abilities in cycling.

My question: Is there such a thing as aerobic memory. After a period of time off from riding, can speed quickly be built up if years of riding preceded it?

I would hope that there is, but I don't know. Also, I know very little about road riding, so if I made some false comments above, go for it. Thanks

Fairways and Greens
TOO hard to believe, from a true Newbie (nm)Dutchy
Aug 8, 2001 10:32 PM