Aug 7, 2001 1:35 PM
|A new rider asked me why road bikes don't come with kickstands any more. Other than the geek factor and ounce or two of weight, I was trying to recall that I had heard something about them as a safety issue (perhaps somehow engaging down and making contact with the pavement on a turn?)
Does anyone have the full list of explanations (or is it limited to the geek and weight issues?)
Aug 7, 2001 3:21 PM
|Well, think about it...they make no sense. There is always something to lean a bike against, they add weight, they add the geek factor, they can crimp a stay if put on with too much torque, they mar or scratch a paint job, they can come loose at a most improper time. I can reverse the question and ask your friend....can you tell me one reason to have one? It's like putting one on a pair of ski's....|
|Your going to give the Styleman a heart attack!||LC|
Aug 7, 2001 3:37 PM
|Put a kickstand on and while no one will probally say anything, there will always be that wispering behind your back thing going on.
Actually most of the new non-steel bikes have a enlarged reinforced BB area that would make it impossible to put a kickstand on.
|What about chainguards?||mr_spin|
Aug 7, 2001 4:04 PM
|I'd love to have one for my commuter bike. Maybe they have a high geek factor too, but it can't be higher than a rubber band around your pants leg! Now that is geeky!
Seriously, I've been trying to rig one up, but the front derailleur is in the way. Now that I think about it, I only ever use the middle ring, so maybe I should just take the derailleur off! Problem solved.
|What about chainguards?||Lance's Neighbor|
Aug 7, 2001 7:49 PM
|Check out the new chain guards that are available for single speed bikes. I've set my commuter bike up with one ring in front and a Spot brand chainguard in the front with a nine speed cassette in back. I live at the bottom of a long fairly steep hill (Saw Lance riding there today!) and my commute is on a fairly hilly highway. the nine speeds is allright ( I usually wish for a little lower gear but oh well) and it sure makes things simple. Since single speeders are hip now, it'll actually add to the hipness of your bike.|
|I, of course, have BOTH!||Humma Hah|
Aug 7, 2001 8:09 PM
|... and love 'em. Nice steel ones.
The kickstand mount is part of the frame, nothing to mar or come loose. The idiots that fear some safety problem with them have never even tried one - there is absolutely no way one can touch down in a turn, and pedaling causes them to fold up automatically. When I come into a SAG stop, I drop the kickstand and get in line, way ahead of those who must search in vain for something to lean their bikes about. And I don't look in horror a minute later when we hear the crashing sound of roadbikes that were not propped up all that well.
As for chainguards, well, it provides a nice place to paint the bike's name, prevents chainring tattoos, and keeps my school pants from getting chewed up.
Geek factor, indeed! Purely practical inventions.
|You should've seen this one coming! LOL :-) nm||Lazy|
Aug 7, 2001 8:12 PM
|I, of course, have BOTH!||VaMootsman|
Aug 8, 2001 6:04 AM
|Man, you're right. It's taken me hours to find someplace to leave my bike.
You're not only a goob, your a practical one.
|Doing the math ...||Humma Hah|
Aug 8, 2001 6:28 AM
|... let's see, my best ever overall time for a century is 7:55. If you are not capable of 5:00 on a similar route on a good roadbike, you need more training. So that leaves you almost 3 hours of slack to find a place to lean your bike.
But the kickstand and chainguard weight and drag are trivial. Its those balloon tires and relatively upright seating that hold me back.
|Kickstand and happy!||wink|
Aug 7, 2001 5:06 PM
|The bike I have for "rides and giggles" with the wife and family has a kickstand on it that I use all of the time. I mean it is crazy to take a $1,500 road bike on a "ride and giggle" 2 mile ride. So I use a Giant Cypres for that with a kickstand that comes in very handy when we are stopping every 1/4 mile for a number of reasons with the kids. Would not do the ride and giggles without one!|
|2 mile ride, why not?||Krusty the Clown|
Aug 8, 2001 4:54 AM
|"I mean it is crazy to take a $1,500 road bike on a "ride and giggle" 2 mile ride. "
My bike (when new) cost more than $1500 and I take it for 2 mile "ride and giggle" all the time, with or without the wife and kids.