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Lance, Lance, Lance...when does it end??(15 posts)

Lance, Lance, Lance...when does it end??DT
Aug 5, 2001 5:27 PM
OK, I know te guy is an awesome cyclist,but I'm starting to lose faith in him as a person. Why should we, as taxpayers, pay for his ride to Austin on Saturday on Air Force One, especially when the Pres wasn't even on the plane?? Also, what's with him "maybe" doing the Vuelta, and, IF he does it, he'll be riding it to win instead of riding to help Heras win as earlier stated before the TDF?? When does his self-centered-ism end??
Bush was with him in Air Force One, saw it in CNN...Bruno S
Aug 5, 2001 5:38 PM
You are worried about tax payers money? Why is Bush taking a one month vacation?! Can you take a one month vacation? I can't and I'm sure my work is of less importance than his.

About riding the Vuelta, I agree. He should do it. He has a lot of talent but he does not take any risks. About not helping Heras, who knows, maybe he was dissapointed with the USPS team performance in the Tour.
One month? Hell, I'm up to two months at your expense!DT
Aug 5, 2001 7:15 PM
I'm in the Air Force, have been for over 12 years now. I currently have 57 days of leave (vacation) saved up, and will have about 80 days by the next time I am allowed to take any of it. This basically means I haven't taken any time off in the last two years in order to save that much up. The military gives you 30 days of paid leave per year. I can't take any right now because I'm in pilot training and they don't let you take leave during training unles it's a family emergency (death, severe illness, etc.) I have friends who can't even go to their siblings' weddings because they're in training. Do you really think Bush is taking a whole month without doing anything presidential? Get real!! Thanks for paying your taxes so I can take my 30 days/year paid, but don't think that's a pilot in the Air Force, I'm currently making less than $35,000 per year...what do you think I could be making on the outside? So the 30 days of paid vacation is a paltry compensation for not being able to take time off when my first daughter is born this coming November. You can bet your butt that when I graduate next April, though, I'm gonna take advantage of it and ride the length of the Blue Ridge Parkway! :o)
Aug 6, 2001 7:57 AM
I'm not really sure how to take your post. Part rant, part boast. All I know is you get to fly!!! Hopefully something very fast. I'd do that for $35K a year! Beats sitting in a cubicle any day.
do you really think Bush isn't going to work???nm
Aug 6, 2001 4:57 AM
and leave Cheney in charge of everything??? I didn't think so either
He will commune with cows (His own words)...Bruno S
Aug 6, 2001 8:14 AM

To tell you the truth I don't think he is going to work.
Bush was with him in Air Force One, saw it in CNN...Kudzu Kaptain
Sep 6, 2001 11:31 AM
Uh, do you really think any of our Presidents have any vacation taken? EVen though I like some and hate others, they are working 365.25 days a year whether they want to or not!

And big whoop, Lance got to ride on the plane. Like you would pass up an opportunity? Jealousy runs high in this group, doesn't it?

Get over it and get your bike under it, i.e. Ride and quit your bitching!
WrongDave Hickey
Aug 5, 2001 5:59 PM
Bush was on the plane. He was heading back to Waco for a vacation. Lance hitched a ride back to Texas with Bush.
Lance got off at Ft HoodLance's Neighbor
Aug 5, 2001 6:32 PM
From Washington to Ft Hood. This was Bush's original travel plan no additional taxpayer expense. BTW the party in Austin rocked. Paid for by Austin tax payer's but very well worth it.
yeah, man, the party was great...dustin73
Aug 5, 2001 6:41 PM
just wish i could've gotten some better pics of lance...i was right next to the cat walk, but some lady was waving her damn texas and us flag everytime lance would end a was getting real annoying. then she went absolutely nuts when perry, i think, said something about irish people.
Not according to am I misinterpreting this?DT
Aug 5, 2001 7:05 PM
Here is part of a news article posted on I misreading this by thinking Lance flew to Austin on AF1 or did he fly to Texas w/Bush, then go to Austin under his own conveyance? My apologies if Bush was with him the whole time he was on AF1.

"Rumours swirled that Lance would be accompanied by U.S. President Bush to the party. Rumours that later turned out to be untrue as Lance did make the trip to Texas on Air Force One but left the President at home in Crawford. "
Not according to am I misinterpreting this?Bruno S
Aug 5, 2001 7:33 PM
Go to Lance's website, and you can see the pictures of when he is going out of AF1 with Bush. I also saw it in the news.
re: Lance, Lance, Lance...when does it end??wjudd
Aug 6, 2001 4:47 AM
Presidents always schmooze with athletes. Whether it be Olympic gold medalists or Super Bowl/World Series/etc. champions. I'm not wild about the Bush II presidency but he's done nothing to criticise here unless you want to criticise every other Pres. going back....I don't know when this started but it's been going on a long time.

I understood 1 of the conditions of Heras joining USPS was that he'd be supported in his attempt to repeat at the Vuelta. If true, and I possess no inside info, I'd like to see LA honor the deal. LA's effort was extraordinary but he did have support and Heras definitely helped the team.
Lance called Chris Carmichael from Air Force 1Live Steam
Aug 6, 2001 7:11 AM
I attended Bike Fest 2001 hosted by the League of American Bicyclists this past weekend. It was run in conjunction with the Tour de 'Toona a six day stage race in Altoona,PA. Great time and nice hilly riding in the Allegheny Mountains. There was a party for both the racers and attendees of the Bike fest on Saturday. Chris Carmichael was the featured speaker. He said he received a call from the Air Force 1 operator that asked him hold for "Mr. Lance Armstrong". LA wanted to know what Chris was doing for the weekend and to see if he would go to Austin for the party. Carmichael said he had committed to the Altoona event and couldn't come. By the way Carmichael wasn't that great a speaker. He tried to give a motivational speech to the racers, but it seemed that he was just reading an excerpt from LA's book about his quitting racing his second race back from recovery and his epiphany on his rainy mountain training ride in N.C. Wasn't really worth the price of admission and that was free.

By the way, did any of you attend? What was your impression of the event and the rides? Complaints from other were lousy food, hilly rides, not enough rides to choose from.
give the guy his momentColnagoFE
Aug 6, 2001 7:47 AM
why are you upset he's getting some recognition?