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You rank the Top 10 AL frames...(7 posts)

You rank the Top 10 AL frames...TJFreeride
Aug 3, 2001 10:01 AM
just wanted to get an idea as to what is your favorite/best Al frame?? How many of you vote for C-dale CAAD 4/5/6 frames?? How about the Kleins?? Bianchi EV_?? The most intriguing to me is the Ciocc Starship or Starlight??
what criteria?DUH
Aug 3, 2001 10:13 AM
price? ride? stiffness? fit? color?
re: You rank the Top 10 AL frames...Lardog
Aug 3, 2001 11:48 AM
The Ciocc aluminum is the Challenger, it's got carbon stays and is beautiful. I believe the Starship is Colnago. The CAAD 6 does indeed look intriguing, however, it's still a Dale. The Kleins are incredible with gradient tubing, stiffer than stiff. I ride centuries too with no problem. I ride a Quantum Pro. Klein gets my vote due to many things including the warranty, the personal assistance with problems or questions, etc. I had personal help from Gary himself with questions about my ride. Klein, why ride anything else?
re: You rank the Top 10 AL frames...Woof the dog
Aug 4, 2001 6:35 AM
There are really lightweight frames like M4, high end cannondales. Heard of this new K2 bike (my friend got one). But I heard ONLY positive things about Klein. It is probably the highest quality of aluminum on the market, but I can't say for sure. This bike (or this company) is not as popular for some reason. Maybe its too small of a name. I don't think any big teams ride Kleins. Who knows. A part of having a nice racing bike is also a name, no matter what others are saying. A name does mean something: bikes have been tested in races and respected for carrying the winners. I don't know if I want Klein, but I gotta agree, the paintjob is beautiful.

Woof the dog
re: You rank the Top 10 AL frames...Alex Singer
Aug 4, 2001 7:49 AM
I used to be the warranty guy at a large bike store chain which sells, well, the whole "Trek Empire" plus a few small brands. The ONLY alumninum bike I'd touch with a ten foot pole (or a 5' 10" Jew) would be Klein. Alignment, weld quality, paint, intelligence of design, they're the best. There are aluminum bikes out there with famous and fancy brand names on them all being built by relative newcomers and amateurs; I wouldn't tell anyone one good word about an Italian or other AMATEUR's aluminum bike! These companies are jumping in with both feet and copying each others' bad designs because aluminum is the fashionable material and too many consumers are dumb enough to be bamboozled by the current light weight fad/fraud. Klein can be trusted because 1.)Their full attention goes to aluminum and 2.)Their products are the result of slow, careful evolution. The current Quantums have been changed, say, 5% every year since 1985 instead of changed radically in three huge design jumps. Cannondale also has been an al-aluminum line, but it's pretty obvious that low price and high volume has been their guide. There's only one good aluminum bike from my observation and experience, and Klein is it.
Tommasini has to be considered...42/52 Kelly
Aug 3, 2001 1:16 PM
You are paying for the design and craftsmanship, not the name.
Giant frames are the best...alansutton
Aug 4, 2001 10:49 AM
They are the lightest, cheapest frames you can buy that are actually Tour De France proven by one of the highest ranking teams. 2.1 pounds for $650 WITH carbon fork. Giant has more experience building aluminum frames than all other frame makers combined. Just ask Schwinn, Specialized, Trek, GT, Bianchi and Lemond who builds their aluminum frames- Giant does. As far as engineering, Cannondale has to be the most innovative fabricator but if you factor some basic cost/benefit analysis, their bikes are only marginally better due to the clever component integration, which has it's drawbacks.