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Hey Doug Sloan.........(13 posts)

Hey Doug Sloan.........Spokeman
Aug 2, 2001 8:17 AM
Glad to see you back after a few days.

How was Kaiser? I posted here a few days ago about how it went but got no response.

Aug 2, 2001 8:43 AM
It's below. I was busy for a few days...

Aug 2, 2001 9:19 AM
Sounds like it was not so fun for you.

Yeah, I think the heat just killed everyone. I kept running into Bob Brooks at the rest stops and he looked like death at the last one. Poor Bob, I have never seen him suffer like that in the 15+ years I have known him.

One thing I think is interesting is that although the winning time was off, all the other times were a bit faster than average. My time this year would have easily put me in the top 10 in any other year. But this year it barely cracked the top 20. So, I think the "herd" was a bit faster on average this year. Plus, Rob, my teammate that came in first, pretty much rode the last 90 miles alone. A lot of the front group riders were either doing part of the ride or totally exploded. Without someone to work with after that many miles, the avg speed is going to drop no matter what.

I think I saw you sitting at the table by me afterward. Did you go lay down on the lawn? If that was you, yeah, you didn't look too good. Sorry.

I'm good friends with most of the Visalia crowd on your team, Mike C and Ken M have been good friends of mine for many, many years. One of these days I'm going to rejoin the club.

Wow!grzy mnky
Aug 2, 2001 9:41 AM
Definitely a tough ride, but the knife didn't really get stuck in me until in the heat and the final rest stop. Taking the previous week easy, then trying to stay in touch with my wife and buddy really kept me in a pretty relaxed mode. Also, this being my first time doing Kaiser I was trying to err on the side of caution. No doubt if I'd tried to go as hard as you guys did I would have really been in the "hurt locker" before I got any where near the final rest stop. Heck I'd probably still be out there in a ditch somewhere looking like road kill.

Anyone going for the Everest Challenge on 8/25 & 8/26? Thinking it might be "fun" in a sick perverse sort of way. Figure I'll do the tour option and see how many people blow up on day 2 and try not to be one of them.
Aug 2, 2001 10:33 AM
Planning on Everest, but August is a high mileage month for me; July was intensity/climbing phase. We'll see how climbing ability is affected by the mileage phase.

Yup, Everest appears to be a little sick. Sort of like doing the Death Ride and Kaiser, but without the flat parts, on consecutive days. I figure that it will be good training for the 508 in any event.

Yup, that was me looking all pale and then going to lie down on the grass, but I think there were a few others, too. I was out of it. Strangely enough, my body is ok this week. I've been doing 30-40 mile rides alone every evening at 21+ mph without much ill effect. I suppose the heat problem is fairly temporary.

What's the Everest Challenge?Zignzag
Aug 2, 2001 12:51 PM
29,028 ft of climbing in two days? Do they have a web site?
Aug 2, 2001 1:01 PM
Looks like fun, huh?
When I saw the ride was out of Bishop, I thought...Zignzag
Aug 2, 2001 2:41 PM
uh oh, a Hugh Murphy production. But then I saw the entry fee was only $60 for a 2 day event and I immediately knew it wasn't.
Aug 2, 2001 8:48 PM
Yikes... that looks killer. Do most people use Bishop as their "basecamp"?

Thanks JohnG
Good lessons for others!MrCelloBoy
Aug 2, 2001 9:57 AM
Don't try new components (especially big ones like wheelsets) on a big ride without previous use, and you gotta rest up before a big ride!
Others can learn from you Doug. It weren't for nuthin!
Aug 2, 2001 1:06 PM
While I've ridden these wheels many times, I've not used them on the big descents in the mountains. I've read since that many of the pro teams in the Tour this year went to all carbon wheels, but also had problems with braking. The Tufo's I rode all week, but again just didn't push them under the same circumstances, braking and turning hard at 30 mph plunging down mountains. That's the problem with "racing" stuff. I think over all I'd have been better off on my tried and true Ksyriums.

Oh, and definitely rest up for rides like this. Nothing worse than feeling worn out on the first hill with 13,500 feet of climbing and 140 miles ahead of you.

re: Overized Barsgrzy mnky
Aug 2, 2001 8:36 AM
Typically the computers don't fit on the oversized bars with the std. supplied hardware. An easy solution is to use a small black ziptie in it's place.
Bar Sizegrzy mnky
Aug 2, 2001 9:18 AM
Well, from a stict engineering stand point most people know that for the same weight a larger diameter thinner walled section will be stronger. However, this is not to say that a smaller diameter section can't be as stiff or stiffer if you change the materials and/or wall size. One of the problems with large thin walled sections is that while they are stiff they aren't as durable to things like point loadings and impacts. So sometimes that larger thin walled section isn't as light as one would think. One also has to ask how stiff is stiff enough. To illustrate my point check out the Easton EC-90 carbon fiber road bar - stiffer than all the aluminum high end bars and it's lighter - of course it's cost is on the order of 2x....