|Women Drivers and right hand turns!||keith m.|
Aug 2, 2001 6:03 AM
|It seems that in general, women drivers always pinch me off at right hand turns. You know, slamming you into the curb. It seems that they always want their tires as close to the curb as possible on those right handers, whether there is a bike there or not. When I ride as a passenger with my wife I keep expecting to hear this awfull scraping noise comming from the rims when she makes a right turn she gets so close. My step mother's AMG Mercedes has scraped rims on the right rear wheel. Don't take this as sexist. Believe me, men do some things out there that scare me (like seeing how close the right hand mirror of those constuction trucks can get to me when there is plenty of room for them to slide over). Just had to see if anyone else notices this trend among women drivers?|
|re: Women Drivers and right hand turns!||Aristotle|
Aug 2, 2001 6:43 AM
|Give them a golf club, and they won't be able to hit a golf ball.
Give them a bat, and they won't be able to hit a baseball.
Give them a car, and they hit everything.
|I will say this...||keith m.|
Aug 2, 2001 8:34 AM
|My Wife humbles most men when it comes to golf. 240 off the tee with a fade. It's a beautiful thing to behold.|
|Try this experiment||Spoke Wrench|
Aug 2, 2001 6:43 AM
|Camp out at a stop sign some place where a lot of people turn right. Notice how few drivers look to the right AT ALL before pulling out. Gender doesn't seem to matter. If there happens to be a bicycle coming from that direction, they won't see it.
Now you know why you should always ride on the right side of the street.
|he's talking about||DUH|
Aug 2, 2001 8:08 AM
|being at a stop light/sign, and getting pinched by cars turning right.... drivers only look left because no traffic comes from the right. This is why I move to the LEFT side of the lane when the first one at a sign/light (i.e., make yourself visible and give them room to go by)|
|This line of thinking is f*cked up||AlexR|
Aug 2, 2001 7:38 AM
|I think you know what I mean.
|WHOA, take it easy Alex...||keith m.|
Aug 2, 2001 7:58 AM
|There is no reason we can't have alittle fun talking about the harmless differences between men and women. In case you haven't noticed, we are different from each other in many ways. I'm sure that the ladies on this board have a few funny and light hearted things they can share about men. No harm intended here. Lighten up. By the way, do you eat with that mouth?|
|takin' it easy||ak|
Aug 2, 2001 8:25 AM
|to keith & everyone else:
as much as I didn't agree with alex's tone I gotta agree with his/her idea. This whole "women can't drive" thing is pretty ignorant. I finally saw a "the more you know" thing on NBC the other day that I actually agreed with (not like the 'using drugs means everyone hates you' message they spat out earlier this year) The exact words don't apply directly, but the concept does. If you verbalize your stereotypes someone else is going to think it is ok to verbalize theirs. This continues on and on in our society until we get weak people who have heard it so much that (even though it was always a joke) start believing it and start living it. I'm not saying that because you jokingly suggested that women can't drive means that a woman is going to be battered or raped tomorow, so please don't think I'm that irrational. But even if there's the most remote chance in the world that it would actually make a difference, isn't it worth keeping to yourself?
|takin' it easy||keith m.|
Aug 2, 2001 8:42 AM
|I never said "women can't drive". I also poked fun at men drivers also if you read my original post. Seems like when your'e on a bike, most people can't drive, reguardless of gender. My only observation about lady drivers in general was about right hand turns and getting squeezed. I also am in full agreement about stereotypes getting repeated and eventually believed. Remember when the democrats were saying that Republicans wanted to starve children and seniors and poison the enviroment?|
|WHOA, wise up Keith||AlexR|
Aug 2, 2001 10:43 AM
|Do you really think "the ladies" on this board are giggling at your observation that they can't drive?
|WHOA, wise up Keith||keith m.|
Aug 2, 2001 10:50 AM
|where did I say "they can't drive"? Show me!!!|
|How about their sexual orientation and race?||grzy mnky|
Aug 2, 2001 9:27 AM
|Any correlation? |
What a bunch of male chauvanistic crap - you're embarassing our entire gender. Maybe they just don't like you.
|How about their sexual orientation and race?||keith m.|
Aug 2, 2001 9:37 AM
|political correctness running amouck.|
|I hope you caught my sarcasm ;-)||grzy mnky|
Aug 2, 2001 9:49 AM
|I really found the original post to be in bad taste. Especially since I was damn near hit this weekend by a redneck in a PU truck - opps, there I go again being un-PC. I've been cut off by right handed turners by young and old, male and female, and all races. Ultimately it comes down to being situationaly aware and riding defensively. Most of the time you can anticipate these situations and avoid them if you pay attention. The simple assumption that the driver of car does NOT see you keeps one pretty safe. When I start having close calls with cars I use it as a warning sign that I'm riding too agressively and need to smarten up. When I've ignored these warning signs I usually end up getting in an accident. No point in being "dead right."|
|DOH... another example of how stupid men can be...||keith m.|
Aug 2, 2001 10:03 AM
|obviously by my previous post, I missed your sarcasm. stupid me.|
|tell me grz...||keith m.|
Aug 2, 2001 9:52 AM
|what exactly did I say that had anything to do with race or sexual orientation? what exactly did I say that is chauvanistic? was it the comment about how well my wife hits a golf ball? was it the comment about how men driving construction trucks come WAY too close? I enjoy your posts quite often, but I think you are misunderstanding something here. I have a great deal of respect for ladies and their opinions. My wife can tell you how often she is right and I am wrong about so many things. And I humbly admit to it. I treat all persons with tolerance and respect equally, reguardless of what, who or where they are comming from. Can we make amends? I am sorry if I offended you. Appollogy accepted?|
|keith: not to beat a dead horse...||ak|
Aug 3, 2001 9:25 AM
|but you assumed the people driving the construction trucks are men, (unless of course you are nine feet tall which is how tall you'd have to be to see inside of the cab of a large truck) this is a sexist assumtion. I found this in a sentance that you designed to protect you from being acused of sexism. Imagine what I could point out in each sentance of your origional post and most of the ones since. Fact remains that your posts on this thread have been off-key, and (judging by the negative responses you got from other posts) unappreciated.
ps: Please don't give me that "well I've never seen any female construction workers, so it was an assumption based on experience"; the growing presence of women laborers is being felt more strongly by the construction industry than almost any other industry out there. You've never seen any because you've probably never really looked.
Aug 3, 2001 10:47 AM
|First, I'm not trying to take the "hollier than thou" high road, and it's gracious of you to offer apologies, but not required. My problem is the tack that you choose. It begs one to continue the logic - what about some other categorization - I mean let's get really specific and pick this thing apart. It starts the whole "those people" ball rolling. Why limit ourselves to just gender when there's all sorts of other classifications. Posters have only two choices for a reply: either agree with you and throw another log on the segregation (meant in the general sense, not the racial sense) fire or disagree to the way the loaded question was asked. How could one of "those people" not find it offensive? The baked in assumption is like asking someone out of the blue if they still beat their wife. You implied that it was only women drivers that cut *you* off - and this may very well be true - but in reality ANY gender can and will cut you off. If you truly believe in equality why should a woman drive any worse than a man - are you implying that there is some sort of generalized gender deficiency at work? I guess it comes down to the way you phrased your statement - sort of a slippery slope with the only way to go being down. |
I think that one shoud consider the number and nature of the replies and the general message.
Thanks for listening and I do appreciate your compliment.
Aug 2, 2001 10:15 AM
|One reason might be their height. They are not sitting up high enough in the seat to judge distances/width, ecspecially in an SUV.
I find the worst drivers to be ones with handicapped plates.
I've never has so many close calls from these morons. Mostly cutting it to freakin close when they have 2 full empty lanes beside them.
God, its almost to the point where I'm riding and totally pissed at every car that I see. I'm a boiler ready to blow....
I'm just sick of the stupids, rednecks, punks, old farts, handicapped and SUVs every time I get on the road.
Aug 3, 2001 9:36 AM
|...I don't care WHAT gender a driver is. What pisses ME off is when some nervous driver waits for you at an intersection when you are a good two blocks away with no on-coming traffic. I just want to scream, "Just GO already! You're not doing ME any favors!"
Men and women are equally bad drivers, too. (Might as well get back on the subject and regain my composure, right...?)