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Frame pump under seat stay?(14 posts)

Frame pump under seat stay?Whatever
Jul 27, 2001 10:25 AM
After making multiple sacrifices to the Flat God in one day, I am considering carrying a frame pump instead of CO2. My new bike can't take a frame pump under the top tube, and the builder recommends jamming one under the left seat stay. LBS guys expressed mixed feelings about this...one said he'd dislodged a pump with a good bump to the rear wheel. Anyone doing this out there? If the pump does dislodge, can it fall into the rear wheel (this would be a bad thing, I suspect).
I've seen it done...MrCelloBoy
Jul 27, 2001 10:34 AM
It seems that if it did come loose it's more likely to just rub against the tire. I've also seen pumps jammed between the seatstay and BB parallel to the seat tube.
saw this on LA's bike--i think--on the A&E lifetime biographyHaiku d'état
Jul 27, 2001 10:41 AM
if lance does it, we all should (j/k). funny, that.

if it fits, go fer it with some velcro to hold 'er on.
saw this on LA's bike--i think--on the A&E lifetime biographyCliff Oates
Jul 27, 2001 11:32 AM
I saw that too. I agree on the velcro -- if the pump got loose back there it could ruin your whole day.
Two or three solutions...cory
Jul 27, 2001 11:34 AM
My vote for all-time best frame pump is the Zefal hpX. I had one for 15 years that still worked perfectly until it fell off the bike (my fault; I knocked it loose) last night and went into, you guessed it, the rear wheel... But I'm going to buy another one, because they WORK.
As for carrying it, how come you can't? No pump peg on the head tube? You can buy a clamp-on peg with a vinyl band that goes around the top tube. Looks a little tacky but it works. Also, there are velcro carriers that strap to the top tube (haven't seen them lately, but they used to be all over bike shops). Zefal makes, or used to, a thing called a Doohickey that bolted to the brake bridge behind the bottom bracket and held one end of the pump. The other end jammed up between the seat tube and the stays, but you had to have enough room between the seat tube and the tire to fit the thing, and most road bikes these days don't.
Another option is...ah, crap, I forget who makes it. but I have a "convertible" pump, I think Blackburn but maybe Topeak, that mounts with a velcroed bracket on the top tube. It fits like a frame pump but unfolds into a little bitty but pretty effective floor pump. You could carry that on any tube, I think, and it works pretty well. I can reach 120-130 pounds without any trouble.
Topeak Road Morph, not Blackburn (nm)cory
Jul 27, 2001 11:39 AM
Topeak Road Morphdavidl
Jul 28, 2001 6:49 AM
I strap my Topeak Road Morph to the seat tube w/ velcro that comes with the pump all the time. In fact, this morning. Works just fine.
read this.Woof the dog
Jul 27, 2001 2:45 PM
have you noticed that on the Zefal Hpx pump's box it says that it is not designed to be carried under the top tube!!! Its funny (kind of, but not really) but Performancebike mags had a picture of that pump under top tube (maybe not anymore). Zefal is 200 grams, which is a bit heavy by my standards. I'd rather have good tires (which means I have to replace them often...ahh, so be it). I carry a very light smallest pump I could find. its the crank bro's something pump. smallest one and doesn't go high on psi, but works to get me home.
Sincerely,
Woof the dog.
Yep, I do it.J.S.
Jul 27, 2001 12:13 PM
I run a velcro strap around the pump and seatstay and it never comes loose. It also looks waaaaayyy cleaner than that damn pump under the top tube.
What frame do you have?Andy
Jul 27, 2001 2:41 PM
I have an OCLV frame. I've used the Zefal HPx, Blackburn AS-1 AirStik and the Topeak Road Morph. After seeing all the talk about the road morph I decided to get one (25% off at REI)

When I first looked at the pump I said to myself "This thing screams FRED!" I didn't let that stop me though.

It's the best bike pump I've ever had. It doesn't take 50,000 strokes to pump you tire up and you don't have to hold it at an uncomfortable angle while you pump.

On the down side... I was not pleased with the way the mounting bracket fit my OCLV frame. I took my Blackburn AS-1 AirStik mounting bracket (water bottle type) and used it instead. My Topeak Road Morph mounts nicely next to my down tube bottle cage with the Blackburn mount.

Yes... it's somewhat bulky but it works damn nicely. Beware, the built in gauge is not accurate. My friend pumped up his tire to 115 psi and checked it with a different gauge and it read 140 psi. It felt like a block of wood. Try doing that with a standard frame pump or even a mini pump.

This pump kicks @55!
Calfee Tetra ProWhatever
Jul 27, 2001 3:32 PM
The frame has a large web-like gusset at the head tube...no pump peg or anything like that. Bottle cage on the seat tube. I used a Silca frame pump for years on my old steel bike with a pump peg on the head tube. I am probably going to go with the Silca again, because they can be cut to length by the LBS and sized so that they are jammed in there pretty tight. Put a Campy steel head on it (which also provides a pretty good grip on the frame on its end of the pump) and it's probably good for life (like all the other Silca and Campy stuff we've got, right?) Provided it stays out of the rear wheel.

BTW, when Lance gets a flat, doesn't someone in a car jump out and give him a new wheel in like, 30 seconds flat? Where can I get that system?
Lance...Lone Gunman
Jul 27, 2001 6:39 PM
doesn't always have a car following him around to hand him a wheel in Austin. He has trained solo in the hill country around Austin. The TV clip referred to earlier was from pre TDF wins, so he had less attention.
Instant pit crewmr tornado head
Jul 28, 2001 1:30 PM
Well, to get a system like that, all ya gotta do is get signed as a pro for like $900,000.00 a year and win a world championship & 3 TdF's.

Like magic, the instant pit crew comes out of the woodwork.
re: Frame pump under seat stay?wes
Jul 28, 2001 8:14 PM
The seatstay is where I put mine. It's never come loose and I've ridden through some crazy stuff. I have a Zefal hpX. The main problem I have with the top tube is sometimes you need the toptube for stability - descents, hard corners, whatever. I used to have more problems knocking my knee against the pump when it was under the toptube than I have with bumps now. I tighten the rear quick release so it's between the seat stay and chain stay and I hang the pump on the QR.