Jul 26, 2001 4:34 PM
|hey i was wondering if eat a donut or 2 after my group ridewould hurt because theres a dunkin donuts right next to the bhike store and i just cant refuse. thanks|
|re: hurt what???||Akirasho|
Jul 26, 2001 5:09 PM
|... there is considerable debate about the type of carbohydrates one might consume post training, but most agree that there is a window (about two hours or so) right after said training where replenishing the body's stores of glycogen seems to be of greatest overall benefit.
I'm no health food nut (no offense) and would rather have an indulgence or two, rather than binge... I suspect that it would depend on your dietary needs, training, and binge factor... a donut might keep you from midnight raids to the 'fridge, or worse yet, a call to Dominos...
Be the bike.
Jul 26, 2001 5:45 PM
|Cut out the last part of the crust and you've got a tasty, "zone friendly", meal or snack. This is what I love about the "zone" diet. (Not that I eat pizza every day, or week, for that matter, but it's nice to know that I CAN if I want to, every once-in-a-while.)|
|toni's frz taco pizza y'day post-rd, 1360 cal, 800 fr fat cal NM||Haiku d'état|
Jul 27, 2001 5:22 AM
|food is good||GTrider215|
Jul 26, 2001 6:06 PM
|im only 15 and im growing and after i ride i can not stop eating, ahh heck i cant stop eating period, illbe ok then all of a sudden see a food commercial on t.v. then raid the fridge but im burning all this crap off.|
|food is good||Jim Burton|
Jul 26, 2001 8:43 PM
|At fifteen I doubt you have to worry as much as the rest of us about post ride meals. Heck, I'm twenty nine and even I stay the same size whether I eat well or badly! I do notice better rides after eating well for about a month, though. Eating well is something that you won't notice in your riding after the first two meals or even ten. Eating badly is something you may notice right away; i.e. if you eat the doughnuts BEFORE you ride. You're too young for this, but I really have a bad ride the night after I've had a beer or two.
After a ride I am usually famished, also. I ride by an incredible number of fast food joints on my way home. The only thing that makes me able to resist stopping is that I am usually in clothes that people in the small southern town I live in will laugh at and perhaps start a fight over. But, as soon as I get home and if there isn't good food around, I am heading straight to the icecream and hotdogs. Nevertheless, you and I are still one up on most of this society in that we actually exercise!
This is all really a long way to say, "You're fifteen and don't worry about a couple of doughnuts." On the other hand, if you start good eating habits now, you will be much better off when you're thirty!
|Wait till HH sees this (nt)||Car Magnet|
Jul 27, 2001 1:04 AM
|Yeh he's on that donut diet! He'll love this....(nm)||Mabero|
Jul 27, 2001 4:17 AM
|Dunkin' Donuts Nutrition Info ...||Humma Hah|
Jul 27, 2001 5:52 AM
|Here's where I looked up the info on the belly-bombs I'd been munching after rides:
Donuts are not health food. They detract from the benefits of riding. The fluffy creme-filled ones I adore are probably laden with hydrogenated veggie oil, which contains trans-fats (the worst kind). And 110 of their 270 calories are from fat.
But, that said, other than the trans-fats, a calorie is just a calorie if you burn it promptly. I was eating two donuts after a 1300 calorie effort. I'm now eating one donut BEFORE the ride, hopefully it is gone before the ride is over!
My first full week on the "donut diet" I doubled my usual weekly distance.
|Everytime a donut conversation crops...||Mabero|
Jul 27, 2001 6:42 AM
|I laugh cause I have this vision of some guy warming up and stretching out with a donut in his mouth, drinking cytomax, and all dressed up.
The other picture I get in my head is some guy going through the dunkin donuts drive thru on his bike and saying, "No bag." and just places the donuts in the three little pockets we have...
I get a kick. Keep it up Humma Hah...if it works don't break the pattern.
|Sure worked last weekend ...||Humma Hah|
Jul 27, 2001 7:12 AM
|105 miles on three vanilla creme-filled donuts, a can of Ensure Plus, a 6" turkey sub, plus my secret-weapon carb-loading dinner (mac'n'cheese with ground beef) and breakfast (grits and a fried egg) before the run. Turned in several personal bests, doing the entire first half at a speed that I'd normally consider a time-trial pace.
But to make me go faster, I should probably attach a donut to the seat of a faster bike, and spend the run trying to catch the donut.
|i've also been experimenting with ensure (pre-ride)...||Haiku d'état|
Jul 27, 2001 7:21 AM
|strawberry ensure in the small plastic canister, chilled. not bad tasting at all. going to work it into tomorrow's 70-80 early morning ride as pre-fuel and late-ride fuel as well, though the late-ride dose will be hot by the time i drink it.
I usually supplement with clif bars and trail mix, plus either gatorade, generic wal-mart sports drink, or cytomax.
|The last time we talked about this ...||bianchi boy|
Jul 27, 2001 9:41 AM
|I couldn't take it any more and took my daughter to Krispy Kreme for breakfast. I was only gonna eat one donut ... yeah, right. I ended up buying two dozen donuts, one glazed and the other chocolate iced, and brought them to work. I ate "only" 3 donuts but made lots of friends that day...|
|Everytime a donut conversation crops...||Avanti Guy|
Jul 27, 2001 11:31 PM
|You would ahve loved seeing me go through the McDonalds Drive through on my bike then :)...
Of course I do have 4.5% body fat and am trying to put on weight so its actually good for me...
Just like cherry ripes are good for you as there is fruit in them :)...
Jul 27, 2001 3:38 AM
|Danish are much better for you !|
|If you're trying to burn fat...||mr_spin|
Jul 27, 2001 8:30 AM
|Donuts after a ride are a really bad idea if you are trying to lose weight. But you probably already know that. Technically, after you stop riding, your body will continue to burn fat for up to 30 minutes (probably less, but it depends on many factors). So the last thing you want to do is eat fat during that period! Carbs, yes. Protein, yes. Fat, no.
But, hey, donuts aren't a great idea anytime, if you are trying to lose weight! I'm getting hungry just thinking about it. Ummm. Maple. Yummy.
|Fat burn ...||Humma Hah|
Jul 27, 2001 9:25 AM
|You can burn about 200 calories per hour in fat. If you don't eat after a ride, this can go on indefinitely as you burn fat instead of carbs.
There's a word for this process: "starvation". It is contraindicated for weight-loss diets and long-term health. Burning large amounts of fat in a short time leads the body to believe food is in short supply, so it will build up fat at every opportunity, and try to shed muscle.
The three things going for my "donut diet" are:
1) One important element is to get lots of exercise, to keep the body from shedding muscle, which it tries to do to conserve calories.
2) And, of course, cycling a lot burns calories, but ...
3) If you burn a lot more calories than you take in, you get into that starvation situation. So the key is to burn A FEW HUNDRED more calories than you take in per day. I'm achieving a 2 lb a month weight loss, which should mean a modest 240 calorie/day deficit, not enough to trigger the calorie-hoarding response. If I were not eating plenty to compensate for an extra 1300 calorie/day, 5-6 day/week riding schedule, I'd lose weight much faster but might end up in a "yo-yo" weight loss/gain situation.
Of course, I could certainly find something healthier than donuts to make up the calories with.
|did you know that.....||Rusty McNasty|
Jul 27, 2001 10:28 AM
|the word "donuts" spelled backwards is Stunod??
As in "I looked like a real STUNOD standing inside the krispy kreme dressed in bike shorts and a jersey!"