|how do you schedule enough time to train???||jayz|
Jul 25, 2001 5:04 AM
|i guess im pretty luck with a flexable schedule that allows me to leave around 4pm...i hear about people training 15-18hrs a week..and still putting in a hefty solid work week. how do you schedule your time to allow for the long rides during the week?? not as bad in the summer when its light till 8 or later...but, people had thier headlights on at 7:30 when i was finishing up last night.
im contimplating switching jobs which might not always be so flexable.
(commuting is not an option as the office is a 3 min drive by car)
any thoughts, suggestions???
|source of info||Dog|
Jul 25, 2001 5:23 AM
|If these guys (true ultra riders) can make time, seems like we all could:
|You have to control the time.||Thioderek|
Jul 25, 2001 6:33 AM
|There are people that have plenty of free time-I know a few of them-that sit around instead of doing.
I work a solid 60 hours a week (in certain times of the year that can get up to 75-80)but manage to get in at least 100-150 miles of riding a week-more if time allows, hit the weights 3 times a week and manage to run at least 15-20 miles a week. I try to work on my swimming also, but have given up on getting any better.
Part of my routine is my commute-only 7 miles each way. I am up by 6 and out the door on my way to the gym by 6:45 with my work clothes in my bag. My gym is my church in the morning and my workout is my cup of coffee. I dont walk into my office until 9:30-9:45. Depending on what triathlons I have coming up decides the intensity or type of workout that I do.
Bottom line is that I have molded my workout around my work life. I couldnt begin my day any other way. That is how I want it. If I miss a day here or there, I dont sweat it. I know I am on top of my game. You cant get too serious about it. Just dont let the routine control you, then you get lost.
I still rage in the bars once or twice a week. I am not a total gym head. Staying in shape helps me fight off the effects that much better. Nothing better than waking up at 6 am after closing the bar down at 4, to get on your bike and hit your workout. You can smell the alcohol coming out of your pores. By the time you hit the showers, you are the back to normal.
You only have a 3 minute commute, turn it into a 45 minute commute. Find a gym near your work. Believe me, there are ways to get the workout/training in.
Jul 25, 2001 6:55 AM
|It all boils down to what your goals/priorities are. I have a family and 2 kids so training often takes a back seat to that. sure i could train for RAAM but it would be at the cost of something like family time or work. it's interesting that johnny g...the dude that started Spinning classes--had the original Spin bike created so he could train for RAAM but still be around his family. Can't imagine riding all those hours on a stationary bike, but it can be done I guess.|
|re: how do you schedule enough time to train???||ColnagoFE|
Jul 25, 2001 6:43 AM
|Here's how I do it. Joined the Y and take Spin classes and lift weights during lunch. I'm no morning person and already get up at 5:30 everyday so early mornings are out. I ride in the evenings (don't get home until 6:30pm though so a short ride) when it's light out and teach/take Spin classes during the winter at night. Then some longer rides on the weekends and that's about all I can get into my schedule.|
|split your days up||lonefrontranger|
Jul 25, 2001 6:46 AM
|I think Carmichael's program even has allowances for this. I've also seen training programs that use a higher intensity, 4-day/week program for those with schedule conflicts.
I'm starting the base phase for cyclocross right now, and Simon Burney (God of All Things 'Cross) specifically recommends "dual" days, owing to high intensity while needing to conserve base / recovery, and short daylight issues. I don't have the luxury of being able to leave early - I work at a 7.30 - 5.30 operation - however I can take longish lunches and get a ride in the middle of the afternoon (great for winter training). I also commute to work (22 miles RT) a fair amount, which helps with base mileage.
Typically I'll run for 30 minutes in the early AM before work (3 days/week), then ride for an hour at lunchtime, pace depends on program that day. In the evening I'll either do skills drills out in the yard or sit on the trainer for 40-45 minutes doing some form of killer intervals (again dependent on day & phase of program). Or I'll go swim or lift at our local rec. center. (Bonus: if you have kids, enroll them in a program they like at the Y; this gives you an excuse to go lift or swim in winter).
This makes it very easy to get in 1 1/2 to 2 hours of quality workout time per day. The good part about cutting your program into bite-sized chunks like this is you don't feel pressured to bust butt home to squeak a 2 hour ride in on weeknights. The downside is that it can feel like you spend the whole day getting dressed / undressed for different activities.
The whole trick to fitting all this stuff in is organization, prioritization and most of all COMMUNICATION - make sure the schedule is laid out for everyone to agree on, then stick to it. I'm lucky to have a bike racer for an SO, so he and I don't have many compromises when it comes to the riding part. But I've seen family guys with non-cycling spouses manage to work, train and race a fairly hefty schedule (one is a family M.D. with four kids!) - but you have to be organized, motivated and balance your time effectively. It's a good excuse to get rid of some of the really useless "dead wood" in your life. What gave in our specific instance was sitting in front of the TV, and I cancelled all of our magazine subscriptions. We've got hours and hours of Tour footage taped, but I haven't watched it yet - guess I'll save it for the trainer this winter.
Good luck, now go ride!
|by divorcing the wife and disowning the kids :-) nm||ET|
Jul 25, 2001 7:00 AM
|Did anybody say, "Kill your television"?||cory|
Jul 25, 2001 8:10 AM
|If you'd asked me a year ago, I would've said I hardly watched any TV at all. When I started looking for more time to train, though, I realized I was doing 45 minutes to an hour a day without even realizing it--stop to follow an item on the news, watch a few minutes of "Jeopardy," catch the last half of the rattlesnake special on Discovery, stuff like that.
If you can eliminate that, it frees up a bunch of time. If there's something I really want to see now (no flip-the-channels-to-see-what's-on anymore), I generally stretch or ride the trainer while I'm watching it.
|Actually, I love my television.||Thioderek|
Jul 25, 2001 8:27 AM
|I use the tv as a tone down tool. I need my tv. It is on before I get out of bed to listen to the news and relaxes me at night before I hit the sheets. I use the timer so I can go to sleep by it. It is my friend.|
Jul 25, 2001 8:19 AM
|ok, I'm not talking about the training aspect of it, so don't jump all over me, but if you have a three minute drive to work, why are you driving? The reasons most riders use as excuses for driving to work are: it's too far, and I can't ride my bike on the expressway. Get a little green in ya, save the gas $$, and do something good for your grandchildren. (ok, I'm climbing down off my podium now)|
Jul 25, 2001 2:19 PM
|If it's a 3 min commute by car, why bother? You could probably get there in 5 min on the bike and you wouldn't have even worked up a sweat. Not much of a workout, but it beats doing nothing at all!|
Jul 26, 2001 4:42 AM
|ok..its about 2 miles...
unfortunately, i need my car throught the day...
various field tools, books, equipment that i need on job sites, just is not possible to strap to the bike.
on days that i know i will be staring at the computer, riding to work is definately an option....but most of the time, i dont know..and things can pop up during the day.
and as far as walking to work??? did everyone forget the point of this thread????? im already on a tight schedule...what would help that more? walking 1 hr to work each way or driving 5 mins?
|Ok, you're forgiven.:-) NM||look271|
Jul 26, 2001 5:26 PM
|Take an early retirement and have an understanding wife..||DINOSAUR|
Jul 25, 2001 8:43 AM
|Not to rub it in. I put in 12-15 hours a week, I work around the weather. Sometimes I have to take a day off so I can catch up on yardword, which absolutely kills me, they said cycling is hard? In your case, work on quality, a lot of my long rides are spent just spinning and looking at the scenery, which is what retirement is all about, as far as I am concerned.
You can stay in real good form by putting in around 12 hours a week and make use of your riding time by intensity. Ride with a plan, you need a couple of long rides a week, which you can put in on the weekend,, and full in during the week with short, intense rides. I'm sure they have books about this stuff. Ride smart, train smart, eat smart, and rest wisely. And be nice to your cycling widow, work on spending some extra time with her. It helps to have an understanding wife who supports your obsession, "helps" might be putting it lightly, it's absolutely necessary. It's probably something I overlook, when I stop to think about it...
|Good Question -- Need time 2 bike RANT||Delia|
Jul 25, 2001 9:21 AM
|That's a great question.
I am so sad. Since I took that waitressing second job to help finance my first "nice" bike purchase (since the one I have is a cheap piece of crap Raleigh)I have little to no time to actually bike. This is going to change because even though I run every day still, I NEED my bike time!! 70 hour work weeks are No fun!! And I'm realizing how cranky I get when I don't get my biking in. AAARGH!
|what we REALLY need...||Dog|
Jul 25, 2001 11:47 AM
|We need a new bike computer with LCD satellite television (receives OLN, of course), voice activated cellular phone, internet browser, voice recognition word processor, and MP3 player. We could ride all day long, be entertained, keep in touch, and get work done.
|...and be just as dangerous as MOM in her SUV!!! LOL (NM)||Len J|
Jul 25, 2001 12:24 PM
|"smart handlebar" HAIKUS||Haiku d'état|
Jul 25, 2001 1:02 PM
|dust on minivan
unused cellphone and makeup
scared of road cyclists
last trip to market
emotionally scarred by
cyclist on the phone
streets are safe no more
cyclometer fax machines
but paper storage?
let's do bike lunch, babe
you should call my domestique
or me on the bike
don't type that last utterance!
"i think i can, i..."
arrested en route
i've OLN on
my satellite handlebars
go, lance, go lance, go!
|You are amazing||Dog|
Jul 25, 2001 2:31 PM
|Don't know how you do that. It's a gift.
|I just love a good collection of Haikus||mk_42|
Jul 25, 2001 2:43 PM
|Reminds me of the cat haikus collection I get every now and then as an email forward (below). They're much funnier if you've ever had a cat.
You had me laughing, good post.
You never feed me.
Perhaps I'll sleep on your face.
That will show you.
You must scratch me there!
Yes, above my tail! Behold,
I need a new toy.
Tail of black dog keeps good time.
Pounce! good dog! good dog!
The rule for today.
Touch my tail, I shred your hand.
New rule tomorrow.
In deep sleep hear sound
Cat vomit hairball somewhere.
Will find in morning.
I leap into the window
I meant to do that
Blur of motion, then-
Silence, me, a paper bag
What is so funny?
The mighty hunter
Returns with gifts of plump birds
Your foot just squashed one.
You're always typing
Well, let's see you ignore my
Sitting on your hands.
My small cardboard box
You cannot see me if I
Can just hide my head.
I fought for hours. Come and see!
What's a "term paper"?
Kitty likes plastic
Confuses for litter box
Don't leave tarp around
Small brave carnivores
Kill pine cones and mosquitoes
Fear vacuum cleaner
Want to trim my claws
Don't even think about it!
My yelps will wake the dead
I want to be close
To you. Can I fit my head
inside your armpit?
Wanna go outside.
Oh, no! Help! I got outside!
Let me back inside!
Oh no! Big One
has been trapped by newspaper.
Cat to the rescue!
Humans are so strange.
Mine lies still in the bed, then screams!
My claws aren't that sharp....
Cats meow out of angst
"Thumbs! If only we had thumbs!
We could break so much"
Litter box not there
You must have moved it again
I'll crap in the sink
The Big Ones snore now
Every room is dark and cold
time for "Cup Hockey"
We're almost equals
I purr to show I love you
Want to smell my butt.
|LOL! good ones! have had my share of feline roomates...NM||Haiku d'état|
Jul 26, 2001 5:06 AM
|warped priorities||Duane Gran|
Jul 25, 2001 2:39 PM
|First off, it all depends on what you are training for. I know guys who have quit their primary job and work part time at some goofy job to make enough money to just pay the rent. They train full time in hopes of going professional. Although I think I train a lot (16-20 hours a week) these guys make me look like a pansy.
I think Joe Friel (author of Cycling Training Bible) said it best when he explains that a competitive cyclist's day revolves around training. If you aren't on the bike you are eating or resting. Work is just a formality that gets in the way and can't be avoided. That said, I try to enjoy my worklife too, but I always know what I would rather be doing.
I've given up TV and plenty of other things that take up my time. Until recently I even gave up relationships and dating, but a girl who is about as nuts about cycling as I am has wandered into my life. I'm curious to see if it can work, but generally I think few women would tolerate this lifestyle.
Now... if you are just wanting to make time for fitness, that shouldn't be so hard I think. Heck, just 5 hours a week is probably great for general fitness riding. To be competitive about it is another matter though. Kind of warped, but it is a good life nonetheless.
|Blow Things Off||grzy mnky|
Jul 25, 2001 3:13 PM
|Long rides during the week - I'd just schedule a 1/2 day off or use flexible hours to work early/late. |
Something has to give.
I save the longer rides (60+ miles) for the weekend, sometimes back to back. I use Monday to recover. Tue and Thu. we have a casual ride at lunch on MTB's, Wed. is either a group road or MTB ride after work (go hard/make it hurt) and Friday is either off or a light day. Then if it's windy and/or the surf is up I go get wet after work.
Kinda spoiled right now - nearby job, home for lunch for wifey's sandwiches, world class riding, surf, and wave sailing...no kids.
|Blow Things Off||look271|
Jul 25, 2001 6:41 PM
|Sent the kids to Grandma & Grandpa's 2 weeks ago. Amazing how easy it is to fit in time to ride when the little dweebs aren't around. (I missed them ALOT, though!)|
|Easy, No debt and early retirement. nm||Tom C|
Jul 26, 2001 8:25 PM