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Idiot Drivers and Passengers(27 posts)

Idiot Drivers and PassengersUncleMoe
Jul 20, 2001 7:18 AM
Funny question but a topic that bugs the hell out of me. On the road I am sure ALL OF US HAVE HAD THIS happen to us.

You are biking along, and inevitably every few rides you get some moron jerks who drive by and throw stuff, yell at the top of their lungs as they drive by, blow the horn just as they pass, or moon you.

On a fast road, not much you can do but hope you don't freak out by the startle. However, sometimes these idiots hit a red light 1/4 mile up the road and you catch up to them. Usually it ends up being a couple punk-ass teens or a couple of college kids.

My question is, what do you guys do? Do you say something, do you challenge them to a fight, do you ignore them?

I tend to ignore them simply because I ride alone, and I don't see much point in getting into a fight, provoking these unstable f*#%heads even more, or letting them know they got to me. But boy does it piss me off sometimes!
ignoreDog
Jul 20, 2001 7:32 AM
Maybe a stare. Don't give them the satisfaction of thinking they got to you. Besides, we are just too vulnerable out there. It's not worth letting it ruin your ride or mood. The world is full of morons and mean people - start letting them get to you and you'll either become one of them or go nuts.

Doug
Just a stare feels good, sends the message...AlexR
Jul 20, 2001 8:48 AM
I'm a sucker for chasing people who yell and throw. I know it's ridiculous, but there is no feeling short of winning a sprint that equals catching the offender 5 miles up the road.

They're stopped at the light, ten minutes removed from their offense and feeling safe when BAM!!! - there you are! Right next to them, staring daggers.

ALex
I agree, ignoreDINOSAUR
Jul 20, 2001 9:34 AM
When you react, you are playing into their hand. That is exactly what they want you to do. Remember they outweigh you by a couple of tons and if push comes to shove, you lose. Maybe if you don't react it will take the fun away from them and they will look for other things to do. Usually when I get pissed, it's over in about three minutes and I'm back to thinking about the ride...
I've thought about packing bear repellant ...Brian C.
Jul 20, 2001 7:36 AM
... for just those morons but, like Doug says, what's the point?
If the traffic's heavy, stare at them silently as you pass them.
re: A funny storyTaylor_A
Jul 20, 2001 7:39 AM
My normal ride is around a lake close to my house. A ten mile loop with very little traffic. Unfortunately the traffic is usually teenagers out there to drink beer and ride their jetski's.

The lake ranger(a city police officer) spends a good bit of time on his bicycle while patrolling the area, and I sometimes ride with him for a while and talk. We were riding along a few weeks ago and a group of teenagers in a pickup (about 6 in the back) drove by and threw fireworks at us. They had a good laugh until they realized that they had done it to a police officer.

Let just say that they probably won't pull that prank again. Sometime cyclists do see justice on the road.
undercover roadies - I like thatDog
Jul 20, 2001 7:48 AM
That's what we need, more undercover roadies. That might take the impulse to do these things out of them (and keep the cops in shape).

Doug
That's exactly what we need...Mabero
Jul 20, 2001 8:22 AM
Cause then cops would also be much more understanding...some of the cops that I have experienced just don't know what it feels like (let alone exercise) to be a cyclist with a-holes out there...what a twist to have a cop with you on a group ride...they'd be writing down plate numbers for the whole ride!
Avoid confrontationMiklos
Jul 20, 2001 7:41 AM
is my motto. Now at 6'2" & 225lbs, I would fair pretty well if I did choose to confront. However, you never know if someone has a gun, they kinda sway the odds. Being hit with garbage or yelled and honked at are just things to get used to as a cyclist.

Confrontations can also lead to furthering these individuals animosity towards ALL cyclists.

Miklos
Why would they need a gun?kenyee
Jul 20, 2001 10:01 AM
They have something that weighs 3-4 thousand pounds! Do you really think you could get away if they decided to run you off the road or squash you?
You're the one that needs a gun because you're the one who is more defenseless, but that's a topic for a different message board :-)
Why would they need a gun?fuzzybunnies
Jul 20, 2001 5:46 PM
A 3-4 thousand lb vehicle only helps if your in it, I have some bastard throw fire works or something similar at me I dragging the individual out the window and pummeling him. Most of my incidents involve a comment by a passing car and the passanger usually looks guilty as hell when you pull up next to him at a light and ask if they have anything to say, I've never had anyone say anything additional. Most times it's simply some idiot not paying any attention to me or anything else on the road, those people I avoid and let go about there business. TTFN
I think you misread my reply.kenyee
Jul 20, 2001 7:54 PM
Miklos was saying "what if the nutty driver has a gun?". I said the nutty driver is driving something big enough to run you over several times so they don't need a gun.
The bigger thing always wins. I let truck drivers cut me off if they want to when I'm driving. Mass/weight always wins.
Avoid confrontationSkip
Jul 20, 2001 7:30 PM
Being hit with garbage, beer bottles, etc. is assault, and against the law in this country, last I looked. Why should we as cyclists, or anyone else, have to "get used to it", or consider it the "norm", and therefore OK and acceptable? Get a license #, and report it, prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. Set and make examples of these cerebrally challenged blobs of protoplasm. Get them off the road - put them in jail, confiscate their driver's license &/or SUV, fine them enough, so that they can't afford the gas. If you feel your life has been threatened, and in danger, do whatever is necessary to neutralize the situation and survive.
confiscate their SUV?kenyee
Jul 20, 2001 7:55 PM
Uhhh...some bikers drive SUVs to carry their bikes around...
confiscate their SUV?Skip
Jul 20, 2001 10:36 PM
Great, it's a Win - Win.
You're generalizingkenyee
Jul 21, 2001 5:40 AM
Bad drivers don't necessarily drive SUVs. You're believing the media too much ;-)
You're generalizingSkip
Jul 21, 2001 9:54 AM
"SUV'S", as used, was a broad classification term, for all motorized vehicles used by the synapse deficient, aggressive drivers; to include, but not limited to cars, trucks, SUV's, motorcycles, vans, etc.
Avoid confrontationSamDC
Jul 25, 2001 3:41 PM
... it's also littering which is probably illegal in most states.
re: Idiot Drivers and PassengersStarliner
Jul 20, 2001 7:45 AM
I've never been mooned before.... that would be funny.

Riding on heavily trafficked roads is something like walking on a tightrope. To successfully complete the journey, you've got to tune out the distractions, no matter how intrusive they can be. As a guru might say: don't take on negative energy, for its weight will drag you down.

Try to keep your sense of humor and amusement about things. Give the jerks permission to have their jollies even if it is on your account, as long as they don't endanger your life or limb. And when you roll up to them at a stop sign, challenge them to a drag race. I guarantee you they will be gone from your life in a flash.
At least it was originalUncleMoe
Jul 20, 2001 8:29 AM
I should ahve elaborated on the mooning. It was actually humorous and original. It happened 3 times from the same car, a truck full of surfers headed up the PCH in San Diego. It started in a congested downtown Del Mar. I passed them a half mile later, but then they caught up and did it again. This time another bike was right behind me so it was for both of us. They got stuck in traffic again. Then maybe 3 miles down the road they got one more opportunity. I had half a thought of slapping that @ss as it went by just for fun. Anyway, I was glad when the traffic let up and they could go on their merry way.

I guess the ones taht really get me are the horn blowers and screamers. I'm hoping to never have stuff thrown at me, but probably jsut a metter of time.

I have one friend who was going down a long mild-grade hill once. A car pulled up along side of him and they actually reached out and grabbed a hold of his arm for 3-4 seconds. He said he nearly pissed his pants because he thought they were going to pull him into the car or toss him. That would have been a license plate to get, but then again the police probably wouldn;t ahve given a crap anyway.
I was mooned on a group ride--by another rider no less... (nm)"No Really"
Jul 20, 2001 9:03 AM
re: Idiot Drivers and PassengersLone Gunman
Jul 20, 2001 7:54 AM
I had 2 of those encounters last evening and a whole lot of "hand gesturing" on the first one. The second one I caught up to him and borrowed someone's line from this board "HURRY HOME TO BEAT THE WIFE AND KIDS!!" FUGG HEAD!! It may be time for me to see the county sheriff and renew the gun carry permit. Right now I'm armed with the cell phone. In my state the mear threat of violence or bodily harm against another is an assault. Call 911 report the plate # and your location, if it's bad enough to report.
idiot testosterone-filled driversquinroo
Jul 20, 2001 9:09 AM
this is sort of along the same lines, but slightly different:

ii am a 19 year old girl who rides mainly in the city (with many colleges and all the drunk frat-boys to go along with it). while i've not had anyone throw/yell/moon at me yet (yuck, i'm sure that will come), i have a problem with all the testosterone-filled guys making obscene comments at me. and i mean obscene-- its amazing what they'll think of! its not so bad when they're pedestrians, because i can keep going past them really quickly, but i've had guys in cars pass me, then slow back down to drive next to me and either stare or comment. this makes me really nervous, especially because i sometimes feel boxed in. i generally just ignore them (if i stare evily at them, they might think i was checking them out, hehe-- the curse of sunglasses), but sometimes i would really like to say something to these jerks. however, i'm generally what people call "really nice", meaning tearing into someone i don't know, even if they are being infuriating, is a bit on the difficult side. so what do other people out there do? any good, quick, and to-the-point lines? my boyfriend thinks i should become more of a b*tch, any help? ;)
Sadly...UncleMoe
Jul 20, 2001 9:50 AM
I have to agree with what most others are saying. Bikers, especially solo riders, are too easy of a target and the best thing to do is ignore the jerks. I suppose they are trying to get some type of a reaction and by acknowledging them in anyway you are just encouraging more.

90% of the population are idiots.
re: Idiot Drivers and PassengersRusty McNasty
Jul 20, 2001 9:49 AM
i usually turn around (and veer toward the center of the lane), and wave. or, i yell back "yep, your horn works".
Get off the road?5ive
Jul 20, 2001 10:55 AM
The only thing that really gets to me is when they yell "Get off the f%#$ing road! Use the sidewalk!" But I honestly think that there are drivers convinced that the road is only for cars and riding bikes on the road is illegal.
I'm reading all these posts...biknben
Jul 20, 2001 7:57 PM
...trying to figure out why this doesn't happen to me. I admit it happens, but not like what you guys and gals are describing. I get an occasional yell and a horn but that's about it. I usually respond with a sarcastic wave as if I knew them or something. I've never had the opportunity to catch someone at a light or anything.

I actually think we have the power to intimidate motorists more than some of us may realize. When I ride, I ride in an aggresive but safe manner. I take the portion of the road that I am entitled to. I signal for turns and will move out into traffic to make a left turn. I stop at red lights and sprint away from them when they turn green. I act like a CAR. I think people notice this and give me the respect of any other vehicle on the road.

If you're riding on the edge of the pavement, timid and squirley, you look like a victim waiting for an aggressor. Women are told that when walking to your car in a dark parking lot to do it with purpose. Walk quickly, standing tall, not fumbling through their purse dropping stuff. Just walk to your car and get out of there. This make them less likely to be attacked. I guess that's how I ride. If I'm gonna wear these rediculous outfits, shave my legs, put a styrofoam cooler on my head, sweating my a$$ off busting my gut, you better believe I mean business.

"Ride fast, Hog the road, Act like traffic!"

Ben