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do I have the wrong bike?(7 posts)

do I have the wrong bike?ohwell
Jul 19, 2001 1:36 PM
I'm not posting this message so much to find out if I have the wrong bike - but to find out how I might remedy the situation if I do. I bought a 62cm Bianchi XL EV2 from a trusted LBS (I bought my first bike there) with Daytona Group and custom 36 spoke wheels. I trusted these guys because, well, I trusted them (the LBS story is a whole other post altogether so I won't get into it - and a moot point now). It's a light machine and I love it. However, I'm 6'6" and 230. This guy assured me that he had 6'4" 230 pounder who had been riding one for a year and that it was a good bike for me if I wanted to go light. (I also stressed to him I did want something light). He did a good job of convincing me on it, and I trusted him. So, I bought it.

Now, 6 months later - it just seems so light and flimsy under me (I had been riding steel up to this point) and I'm getting creaking in the BB, catching with the headset, and it seems like I've got back problems every other ride.

Is it fit? Is it finding the right components? Suggestions on what to do in general and on the entire situation are welcomed and appreciated. And, of course, I already have heard many comments on this from local riders - so I'm looking for as a constructive a set of criticisms I might get here...

...okay, thanks.
Dear Oh...MrCelloBoy
Jul 19, 2001 3:19 PM
Did you have any hint when you test rode the bike, or within the first weeks, that something was amiss? At this point the LBS may still be willing to work with you if this bike just doesn't feel right. Maybe a generous trade-in or something like that.
re: do I have the wrong bike?Retro
Jul 19, 2001 3:40 PM
Can't speak to the creaks--maintenance will probably fix most of those--but it sounds too damn SMALL. I'm 6'4", and I have 11 inches of seatpost showing on my 62cm Allez (bought it cheap used; everything else I have is 64 or 65).
re: do I have the wrong bike?Jofa
Jul 19, 2001 3:40 PM
The main problem you report is the back pain. If you are suffering any lasting discomfort then your position is wrong, (by definition). Having not seen you on the bike or dscussed the problems in detail with you, I couldn't say what to do to correct this, though from experience I've found that people tend to run their handlebars too low on advice from race-oriented LBS's; raising your bars a little may be a start, but really the only solution is either to discuss the issue of fit, in person, with somebody experienced.

I suspect that your worry is that you've broken the frame; rest assured, this is highly unlikely. If you've followed this site for any length of time, you'll know that mysterious creaks get reported regularly, and are amongst the hardest problems to diagnose... however, they rarely indicate anything terminal, and are usually down to dry threads somewhere. Frames break from repeated load cycles which cause fatigue failure; even if the load is significantly higher than 'normal', it would still take a long time for these fatigue failures to develop, and I'm presuming the bike is quite new. Some frames do break from errors in manufacture, but this is rare these days... in any case, you'll be able to see even fine hairline fractures of your frame with close inspection. I bet you don't find any.

The EV2 is a very light frame, admittedly, but you're only about 50% up in weight of what may be considered an average racing cyclist; and I'm sure that even the EV2 isn't built within such close margins that this could be seen as a worry. Yes I know that manufacturers such as Deda put weight limits on some alloys, but this smells more of over-eager lawyers wary of litigation than anything else. Bianchi are a big company and they don't need frame failures on their hands. If there actually is a problem, then of course I'd warranty it- but I wouldn't go demanding a refund just yet if there is none.

The 'flimsiness' you report probably has more to do with your worry about the fidelity of the frame than any actual sensations of flex, or whatever: I suspect you've been gravely taken aside by a riding buddy or two, and fed scare stories about light ali.

The net is that if the frame fails in normal use, then you're fully entitled to a full refund; frame failures that are sudden catastrophic are vanishingly rare- you'll see a crack first;also, er- your bike isn't going to break. It'll be fine- just get your position on it sorted.
re: do I have the wrong bike?Car Magnet
Jul 19, 2001 5:02 PM
Somebody mentioned a couple of days ago that the Bianchi EV2 was not designed for a bigger rider. I found that rather incredulous but another poster did confirm that story.
re: do I have the wrong bike?Hank
Jul 19, 2001 5:47 PM
I'd say it sounds too small. Also, that frame isn't really known for its durability and am surprised it was recommended to someone your weight. Get them to check the bb and hs - sounds like they didn't do a good job with the assembly, either.

Check these size formulas.

http://www.coloradocyclist.com/bikefit/

I'd say custom steel would be the way to go for you.
For piece of mind.......Len J
Jul 20, 2001 3:35 AM
think about getting a fitting done by a Serrotta fit specialist. It might cost you $50 to $75 but he will tell you what the optimal sizing is on several different bikes. He will also look at your current setup and offer suggestions on ways to improve it. My experience (with two different fitters in two different states 10 yrs apart) is these guys are some of the best fitters in the industry.

Re creaking, as you probably know, BB creaking is rarely coming from the BB. It can be anything from the seatpost to a loose chainring bolt. After 6 months, things can work loose. Check all bolts on your bike for looseness working from the furthest away from the BB. I think you'll be surprised when the creak goes away.

Re confidence. Suspions about the ride worthiness of a bike are like suspisions about a lover cheating, once they get into your head, they take on a life of thier own and are very hard to not result in a shattered relationship. The only cure is to get the fears out in th light of day and deal with them. It seems to me that you need someone objective that can evaluate your fit. Find a Serrotta Fit specialist. Good Luck.