|What actually is that click click when I coast and if it's||Grinder|
Jul 14, 2001 3:49 PM
|loud does that mean my bike is crap?|
|re: What actually is that click click when I coast and if it's||Mel Erickson|
Jul 14, 2001 5:11 PM
|That's the pawls in your free hub. If it's loud it doesn't necessarily mean its crap. Besides, what's loud?|
|re: What actually is that click click when I coast and if it's||LC|
Jul 14, 2001 7:24 PM
|If it's loud, then its probally a Crappy/Campy hub. Can you believe even brand new ones are that loud? People that ride them claim they like that, but I tell them to ride somewhere far away from me and leave me in peace. You will probally hear B.S. like "That means it is a more positive engagement" and other hair brain theories too. I like the Campy stuff in general, but those hubs have got to go. Just make sure you keep pedaling all the time; and no coasting!|
Jul 15, 2001 5:16 AM
|Hey, I have campy hubs and don't mind the noise. Are they loud? Yes. I find it a great self-announcement system on populated paths. I just skip a stroke and people know I'm there. Of course, it does nothing for wilding flailing, 16 year old rollerbladers with Christina Agulara pumping into thier ears. I also hear that Campy hubs are quite fast. I'm no expert, but I can coast past most people going downhill--even larger people with better bikes. Is this good or bad? I don't know yet. But the noise doesn't bother me, besides everyone should be up by 6am anyway! :-)|
Jul 15, 2001 6:10 AM
|No given hub rolls any faster or slower than any other. The drag caused by seals and grease that you feel when you spin a wheel in your hands is so little that relative to tyre and air drag, it's totally imperceptible. Maybe you've just become a demon downhiller.
ps has this message come up twice? or did I just miss that damn tiny OK button again?
Jul 15, 2001 7:09 AM
|I'll bet I can out-coast your Campy with my Shimano. You name the bet and the day. :-) Up by 6:00am?...not me, I get off work at 2:00am, got to get SOME sleep!|
Jul 15, 2001 7:43 AM
|Of course, I'm just repeating things I've been told. But this bike definately seems to have a downhill advantage. (Notice I said the bike, not me.) Or perhaps I just want to believe I'm fast.
4Bykn, we may have to do some field experiments at the Hilly 50/50! Now for a wager...hmmm...rounds? This seems to be the #1 rehydration choice among midwestern cyclists. ;-)
Jul 15, 2001 10:12 AM
|Sounds good to me! Most definitely my choice for rehydration AND carbo-loading. See ya there.|
Jul 15, 2001 2:26 PM
|Obviously heavier riders go downhill faster. Now I'm enough of a gentleman not to accuse you of this Kristin... in fact, quite the opposite. Though you're lighter than your slower-descending compatriates, you probably present a much smaller obstacle to the wind; enough smaller that the air drag advantage outweighs the weight disadvantage. This is the better way to be, as when it comes to going up the hills, you still have the edge, excess weight being of little use against air drag uphill.
In these cases the bike is basically a big wheeled roller-skate. No part of it has any effect on speed, efficiency or anything else. Descending at speed is near-as-damnit exclusively about wind resistance.
Jul 15, 2001 3:13 PM
|That's why I feel safe wagering...I know I'm significantly heavier, thanks to my GADD (Gravity Assisted Descending Device, available at your local grocer's, in the snack and beer aisle). ;-)|
|I agree with LC......||coonass|
Jul 15, 2001 11:19 AM
|I have Record 10 on one bike and Dura-ace on the other...it's a real nuisance to hear that 'chatter' when coasting on the R10...I seem to have greater pleasure riding the DA.....totally silence....all you hear is the 'rubber-on-the-road'|
|The sound of your heart rate slowing down! ;-) (nm)||CSIguy|
Jul 15, 2001 11:59 AM
|if you want loud try Chris King||Hank|
Jul 15, 2001 1:26 PM
|best hubs money will buy but boy are they loud.|
|re: What actually is that click click when I coast and if it's||matt p|
Jul 15, 2001 6:15 PM
|To answer your question a little more then what others have said so far. Loud does not mean good or bad. There are some very nice hubs on the market that are loud, and there are also some very nice hubs that are virtually silent. The best way to know if your hub is crap or not is too figure out what kind it is. I hope this answers your question.|
|re: my ride today||Lone Gunman|
Jul 14, 2001 5:49 PM
|You have reached for that door knob that opens the door to the science of cycle training. Theories abound, advice galore.... I spent a good deal of time trying to discover a book or manual that can give me everything from the basics that I would need to know to become a more efficient, well rounded cyclist. Cyclist Training Bible by Joe Friel was my choice. I used to ride just to ride and at about mid season every year I got bored or at a certain mile point on every ride mid season, I would lose concentration on the ride at hand as though I was riding without purpose. Friel uses the periodization method that I believe is the method of choice these days for most pros. You train in blocks of time based upon your selected goals for the training year and each workout has a purpose. You can choose or design certain routes or group rides to fit the training schedule and chart out your progress. Training by "feel" (I feel like going fast all the time) can lead to negative training and a lack of perceived improvement. You probably will get alot of responses to your post, and most will say ride and enjoy yourself which is true and the reason we ride already. Consider giving your workouts some structure by way of a program, runners do it, weightlifters do it, cyclists also do it but many do not know how to set up a program and ride it. Friel explains this and takes you step by step from goals to periodization to peaking for events, etc. I couldn't afford a coach nor do I need one as I don't race. But I know my cycling goals much better, and how to ride my program I set up for myself, and maximizing time spent in the saddle. Educate and enjoy.|| |