|Hey I dropped a guy with a colnago on my fuji mtn bike!!!!||doc (tro)|
Jul 10, 2001 10:18 AM
|NOW I know the road riding has helped me! |
Hopefully he wasn't going his fastest...the thing was...I was on my mtn bike!...oh well, I just thought I'd brag a little...it was a great start to my day....
|re: Hey I dropped a guy with a colnago on my fuji mtn bike!!!!||TommyBoy|
Jul 10, 2001 10:51 AM
|Congrats... It's not about the bike!|
|it's SOMEWHAT about the bike||ColnagoFE|
Jul 10, 2001 11:13 AM
|regardless of what lance says. you don't see lance riding whatever old bike is laying around. he's got pretty specific requirements for his bike...light wheels. the works. given two equally fir riders the one on the lighter, more aero bike that fits is gonna go faster.|
|it's SOMEWHAT about the bike||TommyBoy|
Jul 10, 2001 11:18 AM
|Agreed... it is somehwat about the bike. However, it's more about the motor. Give LA a 50 lb Huffy and he would still drop most of us like a bad habit, no matter what bike we ride.|
|You don't get it||moneyman|
Jul 10, 2001 1:44 PM
|The bike has nothing to do with it. It's so much more.
|You don't get it...???||MikeC|
Jul 10, 2001 3:47 PM
|I'm puzzled by your response, unless you're being sarcastic and I'm too dense to get it. Yes, there are a number of factors involved, but the bike is certainly one of them, particularly if you're comparing a suspended, 30-lb mountain bike with a bobbing rear to a Colnago! And if the bike has nothing to do with it, do you ride a Trek 5500 just for the graphics?|
|You don't get it...???||moneyman|
Jul 11, 2001 10:04 AM
|Hard to explain in a few lines. I have that bike because it was a gift. I ride that bike because it's an awesome ride. But it's really not about the bike - It's about the person on the bike, and what he/she is made of. If the discussion was just focused on the speed that can attained, or handling characteristics, or comfort of the ride, then the bike is it. Those things, while somewhat measured in subjective terms, can be quantified and compared with other bikes and give a rider information for his/her purchase choice. But the difference is the person on the saddle. Lance's book is sbout life, not a bike. Biking is an integral part of his life, as it is mine and very likely yours. If you are ever faced with never riding a bike again, you begin to realize how much biking means to you. But it really is not about the bike! A 30 lb MTB and a Colnago in a race, no contest. But what of the riders? Does the MTB rider get as much joy in racing the Colnago as the Colnago gets winning?
I had my first race a couple weeks ago. I am 43, and have had some pretty scary health problems over the past four years. The mere fact that I am on a bike, much less racing one, is somwehat astonishing. I finished (accomplishment 1) last in my category, but I would find it hard to imagine that the first place finisher had as much joy as I did. I raised my arms as I crossed the finish line, and I scored my own victory. But that personal victory would have been just as sweet on a 20 year old Schwinn 10 speed. It's the victory and joy on the inside that count. It's not about the bike. The bike is the medium, the rider is the difference.
Clear as mud, I'm sure. Maybe my answer to the original question is a bit cloudy, but if you read Lance's book and really think about what it IS about, you'll see.
|One of my most memorable rides||railer|
Jul 10, 2001 3:06 PM
|Not at all to brag but probably my most memorable ride was on my way back from a 2 hour MTB ride. This was in 1991 (I was still a junior)when ROckshox had just come out and were very controversial as to whether or not it was beneficial in XC racing. Remember those days? Anyway after my 2hour ride on trails I had a 15 minute ride or so on pavement up to my house. I was muddy and wet, had my new Rockshox on, all of a sudden a huge swarm of roadies went by me. All I remember was a bunch of Euro bikes, anyway, I had to latch on. I caught on, it was a fast pace. We passed my turn off and realized they were headed to a popular 4 mile climb, I went with them. I ended up having a tough battle with a few of them and at the end dropped them all. It was the greatest feeling for me. I dont know how fit these guys were, but just to beat them on an MTB. Im a pretty competitive person, so I just loved it. It was the greatest feeling to just turn around at the top and just spin home. Those guys did not want me to beat them. I know theres 20 or so roadies somewhere that remember that climb. I wont forget it.|
|Uh huh||grz mnky|
Jul 10, 2001 3:21 PM
|So how many hours, miles and vertical had they climbed before you "waxed" them? |
Unless everyone starts at the same time and rides the same route it means very little. If you think it does then you need a serious reality check.
Jul 10, 2001 3:38 PM
|Dont know, dont care. I just know I waxed them on a 10lb heavier bike with a front shock, and most of that weight in the wheels, after 2 hard hours in the hills off road, which I would say is the equilvalent to 50 miles on the road with a big group.
Wipe that frwon off your face and cheer up, grouch.
Bring your road bike down, I'll show you the climb on my MTB.