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Why no Giant TCR in carbon?(7 posts)

Why no Giant TCR in carbon?Peter E
Jul 10, 2001 2:04 AM
Anyone know any specific reason to why there aren't any carbon version of Giant TCR?? Giant seem to like carbon and can handle it well with both there old time-trail frame MCR and the mountainbike MCM, not to forget the seatpsot and fork of the TCR. Is it because they wnat the stiffnes that alu offers to the TCR or are there other reasons?? (Weight??)
under developmenttcr01
Jul 10, 2001 9:14 AM
Giant has delivered two versions of a carbon TCR to Team ONCE for testing
How about--why no steel TCR??SimpleGreen
Jul 10, 2001 3:24 PM
Not that CF isn't a good idea, but for the non-ONCE team members (i.e. recreational cyclists) a compact steel frame would be nice. More durable than the current Al ones and stiffer than a normal AL frame due to the compact geometry. Not a bad basing bike/entry-to-mid-level bike. An extra pound on the frame probably wouldn't make much of a real-world difference. Plus with the quantities that Giant makes bikes they could get 853 or Nivachrome for a reasonable price.

CF might be cool though. It's supposed to be expensive to set up the factory, but once it's going it can take advantage of economies of scales. Maybe this is the wave of the future for big companies.

Why no Giant TCR in carbon?Dutchy
Jul 10, 2001 6:25 PM
Giant did make carbon frames in the past on a whole range of bikes. I have a 96' CFR 1 (carbon fibre racing) with AL lugs, there was also a CFR 2, CFR 3. I don't know why they stopped making them, but mine is still going strong although it is a bit heavier than the new stuff. CHEERS.
Why no Giant TCR in carbon?Peter E
Jul 10, 2001 10:34 PM
Now that you mention it i do remember the CFR-bikes. but those frames wasn't compact. It must have been about that time they started with MCR also (the time-trail y-modell frame) I can understand why they stopped with that tough, no idea in making a bike that's not allowed by UCI to use.
I hope we wil see a Giant TCR CF soon tough. Will that make a weight-difference to?? The TCR is probally be as light as it can be right now with it's 1,05 Kilo, but CF SHOULD normaly be lighter, right??
probably not lightertcr01
Jul 11, 2001 7:09 AM
I doubt that carbon would be lighter than the 6013 tubes they are curretly using. In order to get the strength and stiffness more CF material is needed. Especially at the BB. An example is the Giant MCM Team mountain frame. It wasn't really any lighter than the AL versions and in some cases heavier. The 6013 tubing (Giant calls it Aluxx SL) is very light stuff and carries the ability to be anodized. The biggest advantage Cf may provide is a different ride characteristic. All CF frames are notoriously known to ride like boards. Some people like it, some don't. If Team ONCE likes the CF TCR that was just delivered to them about about a month ago, I would think a consumer version may be available in 2002.
probably not lighterPeter E
Jul 11, 2001 10:24 AM
The MCM team not lighter?? it's 200g lighter than the ATX-team frame. The ATX is 1400 and the MCM is 1200. Or is this just magic with numbers so they messure in different size on the two of them??