|Look 281 Carbon||mtbroadie|
Jul 9, 2001 6:45 PM
|Anyone have or try this bike? Thoughts and comments appreciated.
Jul 9, 2001 7:11 PM
|I have a 271 which is very much like the 281. You will not find another bike that combines the comfort, stability, responsiveness in a single package that this bike does. I'm sure you will soon hear more ++ comments from the Look afficianados here on the board.|
Jul 9, 2001 8:05 PM
|Excellent Bike. Great quality, light weight, excellent ride. I have two LOOK bikes and think they are great. FYI, I was in Supergo last week and they had a 281 frameset for $1499.|
Jul 9, 2001 9:27 PM
|$1200 @ http://www.totalcycling.com $25 to ship. Might have to pay an import tax, but you'd still be at least $100-$200 ahead.|
|Careful of the Seat Tube Angle||SimpleGreen|
Jul 9, 2001 8:39 PM
|I thought about getting one, but for smaller frame sizes <54 or 55, the seat tube angle is too slack. All Look bikes have a 72.5 STA. Their toptubes are longer because of this, but you may not be able to get a good fit. Just make sure you get properly fit before you spend the $$.
Good luck! From what people I know say about the Look, it's a great bike.
|I've said it before...||look271|
Jul 9, 2001 9:40 PM
|So have I. Ride a 281. Not your father's Look, to coin a phrase. Yes, the 171's were flexy. Not the 281's.|
|Weight. I think it's more like 3lbs for frame and fork.||9WorCP|
Jul 10, 2001 1:06 PM
|not just frame. It's a hyper-light climbing bike.|
|Anyone got a Look 386||gerald|
Jul 10, 2001 9:31 AM
|A Look KG 386 is cheaper than a 281 (in my LBS) but the 386 looks more stylish what are the pros and cons ? Is the 386 more of a time trail bike ?|
|Anyone got a Look 386||Dave Hickey|
Jul 10, 2001 11:50 AM
|The 386 is a full carbon(monocoque) bike. It's similar to the Trek OCLV. I have a 286(couple years old), it's a great bike. LOOK's Time Trial bike is the 396. This bike is very funky looking bike.|
|re: Look 281 Carbon||seamus|
Jul 10, 2001 9:23 PM
|I love mine, and I've done a lot of research on 'em and found most other Look owners (of 281's and older frames) are very happy and still riding them. FYI to lower responses, it's 3.5lb for the frame AND fork.
Yes, the seat tube is a slack 72.5, which I love, and anybody whining about it beeing TOO slack doesn't understand that KG281's are made to work with Look's post, which has 3 setback positions in addition to sliding rails.
Yes, there are lighter frames out there, and yes, there are stiffer frames out there. But few frames match the Kg281's balance for weight, stiffness and ride quality.
I've heard nice things about the KG386 too, but the 281 represents Look's most state-of-the-art technology. Just get one with the laterally stiffer HSC3 fork, not the HSC2 straight-blade one that comes with Kelme and Credit Agricole team replica's.
|and another thing...||seamus|
Jul 12, 2001 10:49 AM
|As I'm typing this, Credit Agricole just won the 2001 TdF team time trial on their seven KG281's, and CA's Stuart O'Grady holds the yellow jersey for the second day, also on a KG281. Yesterday, Laurent Jalabert won the stage. KG281's make up a whopping 20% of the pro peloton in this year's Tour de France, and we haven't even got to the climbs to watch the Kelme kids fly their KG281's up the hills.
Yeah, yeah, I know, pros are paid to ride whatever. But it certainly looks like the Look KG281 is capable enough to win numerous times (we won't even talk about Kelme stage wins and podiums in the past two TdF's) in the biggest bike race in the world, so to say that it's inadequate for anyone's saturday morning ride is pretty silly.
|and another thing...||look271|
Jul 13, 2001 2:18 PM
|Sorry to contradict, but Kelme used proto-type compact-framed Looks for the mountain stages last year. They're aluminum. As for CA's win yesterday, I thought that they were stock 281's too, until I looked closer and saw that the seat-tube was different than a standard 281's, so I don't know what they were! You're right, though; KG 281's are about the most versatile bikes you can find. Go to http://www.lookcyle.com for the Kelme climbing bike and some more eye-candy!|| |