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Colnago Dream plus ???????????(10 posts)

Colnago Dream plus ???????????Mart
Jul 8, 2001 8:37 AM
Anyone out there tried the Colnago dream plus frame. I've just seen some advertised fairly cheap. I think they may have a sloping top tube and if they do how much would I need to adjust the frame that I buy. For instance if I normally have 54cm c to c what size would I be looking at.
no sloping top tube...C-40
Jul 8, 2001 12:13 PM
Colnago has one geometry chart that is supposed to be applicable to all models. I know it agrees with the dimensions of my C-40. The frames are measured from the center of the BB to the bottom of the seat tube clamp, which for all practical purposes is c-t measurement.

If you've been riding a 54 c-c, you need at least a 55cm , more likely a 56cm. The 55cm has a seat tube angle of almost 74 degrees (147mm setback), a 54.3cm top tube, and a 129mm head tube. The 56cm has 150mm of setback on the seat tube, a 54.8cm top tube and a 139mm head tube. Note that the somewhat steep seat tube angle effectively lengthens the top tube length by about 1.2cm, compared to frames with a 73 degree seat tube angle.

Carefully assess all of the dimensions of you current bike before selecting a size. Buying a new frame is the time to correct fitting mistakes. The most common complaint I read about is the bars being too low, often caused by selecting a frame that is smaller than necessary, with a correspondingly short head tube.

chicagolandbicycle.com has a geometry chart, but fails to list head tube length. World Cycling Productions also has a chart in their catalog, but I haven't found it on the web site. bicycleworldusa.com should also have a geometry chart.
Colnago geo table link enclosedJohnG
Jul 8, 2001 1:00 PM
http://www.trialtir-usa.com/colnagoproducts/colnagoinfo/colsizecharts.htm
More Dream Plus QuestionsDCW
Jul 8, 2001 1:55 PM
My teen-age son has been thinking about a new Dream Plus for his birthday. He now fits perfectly on my Guerciotti, which is a 54x54.6 (c-c) with a 12.5 stem. We have concluded that he would take a 56 in Colnago geometry, perhaps with a slightly shorter stem. Anybody have better advice for him?

(I am hoping that my son will soon outgrow the Colnago and let me have it as a back up to my steel bike.)

By the way, we have been communicating with Steve Howells of Square Deals, who offers a new Dream Plus w/Chorus for about $1800, plus shipping (and US import tax). I think he sells the frame alone for less than $900. One question I have not asked is whether Colnago will honor its warranty in such a case. Anybody have an answer?
More Dream Plus QuestionsAD14
Jul 8, 2001 3:39 PM
A new dream plus with chorus for 1800? If import tax is not much thats a deal. Sounds too good to be true.
More Dream Plus QuestionsJohnG
Jul 8, 2001 3:49 PM
I did a direct import of my Colnago frame and got all of the warrenty bingo cards with the frame. That being said I've heard (from a US dealer) that old Ernesto's warrenty is pretty sketchy at best. On the other hand the dream+ frames are built WAY strong and I've personally never seen or heard of one of these frames failing. I know some real gorillas that ride these things and they can't break em.

Oh, the US distributor is the problem.... the overseas prices ARE for real! :)
YMMV JohnG
Got a web site?? (nm)GregGil
Jul 8, 2001 8:28 PM
http://www.sdeals.com/system/index.htmlDCW
Jul 9, 2001 4:45 AM
dream plus frame for $900???ColnagoFE
Jul 9, 2001 9:23 AM
are you sure it isn't the older "Dream". If so that's a killer deal. Retail is like $1500 for that frame./
More Dream Plus Questionsbnlkid
Jul 9, 2001 9:40 AM
I purchased a Dream Plus frame from sdeals for about $950 in January(the 2000 model. there isn't a change in the 2001 model as far as I know). I wouldn't concern yourself with the warranty as it is only a 1 year warranty anyway. Not sure how it would be honored, but if your bike fails right away the guys at sdeals are great to work with. As for the ride, the Dream Plus is probably the best value Colnago out there(along with the Master x-light). The compact geometry and light weight makes this bike climb the hills by itself.