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Need Advice on Pedal selection!(13 posts)

Need Advice on Pedal selection!rhino505
Jul 2, 2001 2:24 PM
I have read all the reviews on this site about the various pedals and have narrowed it down to a few, but I am still undecided. I am switching to a better pedal from shimano M515's, and was wondering what you guys (and gals) would recommend. Here are my choices:

Look PP357
Shimano Ultegra
Speedplay X-3 or X-2

I ride about 150 a week and am fairly light (120 lbs.), and I would like a good all-around pedal. What do you think?

Like everything else, it depends...Elefantino
Jul 2, 2001 5:42 PM
I've owned all three, so here goes:
• How are your knees? The Looks and SPD-R have minimal float compared to the Speedplays, which have practically unlimited float. The "ice skating" feeling of Speedplays takes a bit of getting used to at first.
• Ease of entry? There's no question which is easier, the Speedplay. Just mash down and go, without looking, right from the get-go, because of the double-sided entry. The others take practice.
• Walking around? SPD-R and Speedplay mean death to wood floors. Look Delta cleats are plastic. If you don't have wood floors, then it doesn't matter. Other than that, they're all about the same. Maybe edge to SPD-R here, but they sound like tap shoes.
• Durability? Look cleats wear out after about 9-12 months of your typical riding. SPD-Rs last for several years. Speedplays also last long, not as long as SPD-R, and are more expensive ($36) to replace.
• Price? Speedplay X-3 (about $100) is cheaper than either Looks ($140) or Ultegras ($150, although Performance has them on sale for $100 web-only). Speedplay X-2 is about $150 but you get a stainless steel axle instead of cromoly ... won't rust.
• Feel: That's up to you. But after two knee surgeries, I went with Speedplay four months ago and I'll never go back. I loved my looks (PP296), but couldn't ride them anymore.

Hope that helps.
Most people who try speedplay don't go backMeMyselfandI
Jul 2, 2001 7:03 PM
I know I'll never go back. As a matter of fact, I hate riding my mountain bike now, because my Time ATACS feel so appalling compared to speedplays.
Tried Frogs? (nm)Elefantino
Jul 2, 2001 8:12 PM
Tried Frogs?Mike K
Jul 2, 2001 9:12 PM
Tried, own and will never go back from both my X1's and Frog Ti's
Speedplay all the way!
Tried Frogs?MeMyselfandI
Jul 3, 2001 9:09 AM
I've been thinking about trying them out. Do they feel pretty similar?
Jul 3, 2001 8:31 AM
Another vote for frogs. The easiest pedal to clip/unclip, great float, no knee pain, and you can walk on them.
Most people who try speedplay don't go backLazy
Jul 3, 2001 9:19 AM
Second the Speedplay's. I love 'em. Can't dream of going back to Look style pedals. I've never tried Time though.

Hint: If you go with the Speedplay's definitely get some cleat covers. As already mentioned, death to wood floors and cost a bundle to replace (~$35).
Look (but see if your LBS can let you try them !)Crash
Jul 2, 2001 10:45 PM
I was in the same boat a couple weeks ago. Just recently back into road bikes from multi year absence. I was using an old pair of SPD's on my bike, very small pad, squeaked like crazy, had a nasty habit of NEVER being in the proper position to clip into. I though alot about the Speedplay's, but I ended up going with Look 357's. Have about 40 miles on them so far and really like them. They're only one sided, but I seem to have no problem getting into them without looking. They are weighted so that you just step into them. They also have a nice, big platform (no hot spots !). They don't have the same float of Speedplay's, but they have more than the SPD's that I have been using off-road for the last 5 years. I kinda like the 'buckled in' feeling. Most of the people that have Speedplay's seem to like them, but you should at least give Look's a try if you don't need all of the float.
Here's my take.Atombomber
Jul 2, 2001 11:09 PM
All are good, as mentioned prior, but consider this.

The shoe will also dictate which pedal to use. Not all shoes will allow the use of Look, SPD-R, or SPD (which Speedplay uses too). Also, if the sole of the shoe isn't super stiff, the smaller cleat of the Speedplay will creat hot spots on long rides. The Look has the largest cleat, the SPD-R the next largest.
re: Need Advice on Pedal selection!Lardog
Jul 3, 2001 11:26 AM
Sidi and Look get my vote.
another viewpeloton
Jul 3, 2001 11:50 AM
The Speedplays get praised frequently for being knee friendly, but this isn't always the case. I have ridden on Look, Speedplay, Shimano, and Time pedals over the past few years. I tried the Speedplays last season because of the good things I heard about them. I found the pedals very easy to get in and out of, and the performance to be good. I was also interested in them to keep my knees in good shape. This didn't work out for me for my alignment needs. I supinate (roll to the outside) with my feet, where most people pronate (roll to the inside). On the Speedplays, I found I had too much roll to the outside of the pedal. I feel that this was caused by a combination of a small pedal platform and lots of free float. This caused my iliotibial band syndrome to fire up. I had to stop using the Speedplays because the pain would be unbearable after about 30 miles on them. I only bring this up to point out that what works for some, doesn't work for everyone. Since switching to Look pedals, I have experienced no pain. Pedals are a personal choice. You may have to look at what you need physically to find the right pedal for you.
I ride BebopWadeOmatic
Jul 3, 2001 10:35 PM
they float just like the speedplays. Have ridden Look and SPD, but will never do that again as long as there are 20 degree pedals (speedplay or bebops) available.

Freedom for the kneedom rules.