|Forte Kevlar ???????||Rev. Litespeed|
Jul 2, 2001 12:17 PM
|Anyone have any thoughts on these tires they have good specs and they are cheep but how are they to ride ????????|
|re: Forte Kevlar ???????||badabill|
Jul 2, 2001 12:30 PM
|I tried them. For me they rode fine for a training tire, but lots of flats and finally cut a sidewall. Worn them out in less than 1000 miles, I would not recomend them.|
|re: Forte Kevlar ???????||steeveo|
Jul 2, 2001 12:37 PM
|Agree. Did fine for 900 miles, then deteriorated rapidly, especially sidewalls. Replaced at 1000 miles.|
|Still testing mine...(Forte Pro Kevlar)||DINOSAUR|
Jul 2, 2001 1:08 PM
|I just starting riding with them. So far I like them, low rolling resistance, good grip, high psi, very smooth riding and road feel. The proof will see how they hold up. At the price I paid for them ($19.98, on sale) if they last for 1k, I will be happy. Most my tires end up getting slashed before they hit that milage anyway. I ride a lot of chip seal roads that are hard on tires. The Conti GP3000 I was using had a softer rubber compound and the little horizontial grooves in the thread pattern had a habit of sucking up little pieces of gravel and glass that would eat up my tires. I am experimenting at this point, I'm thinking buy tires on sale and ride them for 1k or so, then slap on a new pair. I don't know if this is the same tire. Performance has a Forte Pro Kevlar, and the Forte Kevlar. The pro's have the silca-based compound. So far around 200 miles and no sign of wear.The verdicts still out. The guys on the VeloNews forum gave them high marks..|
|re: Forte Kevlar ???????||keith m.|
Jul 2, 2001 1:23 PM
|I've gone through two sets, but I only get about 1200 miles out of a back tire. Nice ride, good grip, and NO flats ever. $14.99 on sale right now (web only).|
|re: Forte Kevlar ???????||BroBiker|
Jul 2, 2001 1:42 PM
|I rode them and was disappointed. The sidewalls fell apart at about 1,000 miles. On both front and rear tire the sidewall showed wear. On the rear tire I could actually black from the inner tube. I replaced the tires immediately. Currently ride Perf. Forte Pro Kevlar. So far they are great (500 miles).|
|re: Forte Kevlar ???????||Elefantino|
Jul 2, 2001 5:30 PM
|Those who remember my previous postings on the subject know I'm a big fan of these tires, particularly for the web-only price of $14.97. I have more than 1,200 miles on my current pair and no signs of excessive wear. I will not comment on flats for fear of angering the flat gods, but let's just say I switched from Conti because those overpriced, over-hyped tires flatted all the time and I will not switch back.
You can spend more for tires that will wear just as well (or worse). If you are into brand names, DO NOT, by all means, buy these tires. They will impress no one. Except your wallet.
|just put some on Saturday||DaveG|
Jul 2, 2001 6:40 PM
|I wore a hole right through my rear Vittoria HSD last week (3000 miles) so I decided to try the Forte Kevlars on sale for $15 each. Too few miles to really judge, but they seemed to ride a bit harder than the Vittoria's and Conti's I've been using. Grip seemed good. Since I don't race, I can't see putting on $40-50 tires only to have them shredded up by a piece of glass a day later. (Am I the only one that thinks tires are the biggest rip-off in cycling?) Hopefully these will last a few miles.|
|No, you're not the only one.||look271|
Jul 2, 2001 6:58 PM
|Seems to me that it's a crime that I can get tires for my car cheaper than bike tires. Something's wrong with that. I only buy bike tires on sale and I absolutely refuse to spend more than $30 on a tire. Bought 2 Specialized Comps last year and I love them, No f*&$s with them, no nics, or cuts, and I have over 2K on them. Specialized has them (23 x 25's) for $15 on their website.|
|just put some on Saturday||G|
Jul 3, 2001 6:46 AM
|You know, I was just ranting to my wife how come tires for my bicycle cost as much as tires that go on my car. If anyone can explain this(a plausible theory) I'm listening. My wife says its because we idiot cyclist types will pay that much-its what the market will pay. Anyway, I am currently using the Forte Pro(non-kevlar). They ride nice, but after about 700 miles the rear is starting to show some wear. I bought two more at $20 a piece for they do wear out. Going to spend a week in Wisconsin at the end of July and want to have a spare.|
|Hey G||Mel Erickson|
Jul 3, 2001 8:05 AM
|Where you going to be? Superweek USCF sanctioned racing is going on in southeast Wisconsin at the end of July.|
Jul 3, 2001 9:28 AM
|Sheboygan-visiting the inlaws. Where is the race? The wheels in my brain slowly begin to turn.|
|Hey G||Mel Erickson|
Jul 3, 2001 12:30 PM
|13-29-July Superweek, WI, Road Races-USCF, 414-784-1732, www.internationalcycling.com
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July 19 Thursday Humboldt Park Crit. Bay View
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July 21 Saturday Wauwatosa Savings Bank Presents the Carl Zach Memorial Classic Waukesha
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July 23 Monday Tour of Holy Hill Road Hartford
July 24 Tuesday Lakefront Criterium Road Milwaukee
July 25 Wednesday Green Bay Super Criterium Green Bay
July 26 Thursday Heritage Square Classic Sheboygan
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|Thought they were a great deal untill....||shmoo|
Jul 2, 2001 9:32 PM
|Mine were fine and without a single flat until the rear tire delaminated (and flatted) at about 1000 miles. Barely made it home. Cheap, but I won't be buying them again.
On a related note - Why does it always have to be the rear tire!!??
|Speaking of unrelated...||DINOSAUR|
Jul 2, 2001 9:47 PM
|What kind of saddle did you end up going with? I'm looking for a new toy for my bike and I'm eyeing the Sella Italia Flite (plain Flite, no cut-out or gel, but has ti rails). Second choice Selle San Marco Era...|
|Actually put the SI Flite back on.||shmoo|
Jul 2, 2001 11:31 PM
|Still haven't bought a new saddle. (Other priorities right now). Put my old Bontrager back on, but soon remembered by I replaced it. It was even more uncomfortable (a little soft and broken down). Also, I think I had gotten used to the dependable firmness of the SI Flite, and missed it more than I thought I would, so....I put the Flite back on. Still not a real comfortable "all-day" saddle for me, but I've done a couple of centuries on it and survived. I'll probably still try something else when I get a chance, but for now the Flite and my butt are getting along reasonably well. I also have been eyeing the Era. Weren't you giving the Fizik Pave a try?|
|Actually put the SI Flite back on.||DINOSAUR|
Jul 3, 2001 10:04 AM
|I like the Fizik Pave, firm, well made, durable, has long rails, a little on the narrow side for me. I'd like it better if it had smooth grain leather, a tad longer, and a sloping nose...which sounds like the Flite. I'm also considering the Flite Trans Am (same saddle with cut-out). My Fizik feels great, slight discomfort on longer rides.
I'm still thinking this one out. My NW shoes are starting to bother me after three season and new shoes might come first. It's catch-22 at this point, my bike feels dialed in with the Fizik and my better insticts tell me to keep it on and don't mess with it.
I also clicked on the Selle Italia site (selleitalia.com) and you can order a custom saddle. custom meaning you have a choice of materials and they will slap your name on it. They also offer saddles you can't purchase on the open market, or so they claim.
On the other side of the coin, I think saddles were meant to inflict pain and suffering, unless you use a Brooks that weighs as much as a small boat anchor.
|Actually put the SI Flite back on.||Mel Erickson|
Jul 3, 2001 12:47 PM
|I just put on a SI Flite Trans Am. I like the width and the length. My butt's still adjusting but the cutout works well for me. I can move more forward and be on top of the gear and not have pressure. I have a wider variety of positions which helps keep any discomfort under control. Only got 200 miles on it but seems to be working out good. My old Selle San Marco is now collecting dust.|
|Ordered SI Flite...||DINOSAUR|
Jul 3, 2001 6:24 PM
|For what it's worth I ordered the Flite, Colorado Cyclist had the best price at $49.00. It pays to shop around, no sales tax, shipping is $6.00. Performance price was $54.99 plus tax and shipping.|
|They're better than I expected||Starliner|
Jul 2, 2001 11:44 PM
|Last year I was running Vredestein Tricomps and after burning through a few sets I saw some Performance Kevlars on sale and bought some with the intention of lasting me through the winter after which I would replace them with some new Tricomps for the spring. Well, it is July and the Tricomps are still in the garage cabinet waiting patiently for their call.
Ride and handling are fine; and tread wear on the Perfs is as good or better than the Tricomps I am sorry to report. I guess I just don't like the lemony yellow color of the Perfs, and keep dreaming of making the switch. But those cheap tires just keep on rolling along, so as the old man would say, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
|something nobody has mentioned here...||keith m.|
Jul 3, 2001 8:16 AM
|is that these tires are light. 215g for the kevlar 23's. pretty good for a cheap everyday tire.|
|re: Forte Kevlar ???????||mr tornado head|
Jul 3, 2001 11:33 AM
|I've got'em... Really, these are good tires. Think of what you're paying for them. I was riding Conti's, and these are more supple, grip better. And at $15 from thier web site, you can't really go wrong. Where else are ya going to get a kevlar-beaded, 127 tpi tire for $15?
I've got about 400 miles on mine, ride on tar & gravel chip roads, and have no complaints. (of course, i ride a 700 x 26....)
Before I got them, I posted a query about them. A lot of favorable responses. wonder why so much bashing right now?
|re: Forte Kevlar ???????||Mel Erickson|
Jul 3, 2001 12:42 PM
|I don't think there's alot of bashing. People seem to generally like them but they have a fairly short life. Like many other things, there's always a trade off. Cheap, light, durable. Pick any two.|
|re: Forte Kevlar ???????Kenda Koncept/Kontenders??????||mr tornado head|
Jul 4, 2001 8:03 AM
|Hmm. True, true, I guess. But most of the replies I got to my post several months ago seemed to get pretty good life out of them.
As for the Conti's, well, they did wear very well but over the winter they started dry rotting which, judging from other posts, seems to be typical of Conti. The Performance Forte's are still feel better (more supple) than the Conti's and similiarly-priced Specialized and seem to stick a little better (tho I'm not going to really push the limits here due to an aversity of sorts to crashing hard if I'm not getting paid...)
Next, I'll probably try Avocet Fastgrips or Kenda Koncept (Kenda just because their US headquarters are very close). Any experince with the Kenda road tires?
|re: Forte Kevlar ???????||Lone Gunman|
Jul 3, 2001 3:07 PM
|I think I expect to get 2000-2500 miles out of a set of tires. I ride continental 2000 or 3000 series tires whichever can be had at a fair price $30 each or less. Forte' is getting 1000 miles or so and then wearin ayt as some posters attest @ $15 per tire plus shipping. Where is my savings?|
|re: Forte Kevlar ???????||Elefantino|
Jul 3, 2001 3:28 PM
|I get 2,000-2,500 miles from my Fortes. Guess I miss most of the potholes.|| |