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Graham Watson: "I've never seen Lance ride so hard"(14 posts)

Graham Watson: "I've never seen Lance ride so hard"Elefantino
Jun 26, 2001 12:51 PM
And he changed bikes mid-course! (nm)Elefantino
Jun 26, 2001 12:54 PM
What a stud. NMLazy
Jun 26, 2001 12:55 PM
I'm curious....Cima Coppi
Jun 26, 2001 1:54 PM
The picture on the update page for today's TT shows Lance on his climbing bike w/o the presence of the front derailleur STI lever. I know this setup is nothing new (Andy Hampsten used this setup all the time), but I wonder how much the bike weights, and what the savings is having a downtube shift lever vs. the STI lever.
I'm curious....jaybird
Jun 26, 2001 2:27 PM
I'm curious about your Hampsten comment... wasn't hampsten pretty much out of the mainstream racing scene when sti came along? I do remember our friends at La Vie Claire doing something funny for weight/aero savings but I don't remember what...
Alp d'Huez 1992, STI on the right (nm)zelig
Jun 26, 2001 2:38 PM
Much later...Cima Coppi
Jun 26, 2001 3:13 PM
Andy raced with Motorola into the '90s when STI was mainstream technology. He used the STI rear and friction lever front on his climbing bike. To my knowledge, he was the first to do so. I even think I remember Pantani doing the same in the late '90s with Ergo for the rear and a friction lever on the front.
I'm curious....Dog
Jun 26, 2001 3:18 PM
I have the same on one bike. The downtube front shifter works fine, even better than STI for the front, IMO.

I read that his climbing bike was "just over 15 pounds." That's very easily true.

The setup saves about 60 grams over STI, by my calculations. Not much, but when every second counts...

I'm curious....Cima Coppi
Jun 26, 2001 3:35 PM
Sounds like what matters more is the better shifting one gets from the downtube lever. Afterall, the ability to change chainrings while standing out of the saddle is non-existant. I can see why this configuration would work great on a climbing bike.
then his pedalsColnagoFE
Jun 26, 2001 3:47 PM
add that weight back on and then some...HEAVY!
the rear brakesmr_spin
Jun 26, 2001 4:30 PM
He probably removes the rear brakes to get that 60 grams back. No one uses the back brakes anyway!

I'm kidding, of course.
Interesting choice of wheels for climbing...Bruno S
Jun 26, 2001 4:40 PM
It seems that he is using a deep profile wheel in he's climbing bike.
great choiceRemir
Jun 26, 2001 9:10 PM
The wheels on the second bike are ADA's. They weigh under a kilo a pair and are made in Holland by a dude named Cees Beers. I have a pair and they are the difference between a huffy and a road bike when it comes to climbing. They spinb up so quick. Check out
I do wonder what USPS' sponser MAvic has to say about Lance's choice though!
great choicezwanenberg
Jun 27, 2001 1:35 AM
as told previously the wheels Lance was riding yesterday are "LIGHTWEIGHT"s. These are handbuild full carbon wheels made in Germany.
The same wheels are used by the Coast team.
Price approx. usd.1400. Delivery time now end of the year.
I know all this because I have a set for a couple of months now and I
ordered a second pair. The difference is clear if you watch them closely the spokes are oval and not "hairy" and round as on the ADA's.