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Lance does it again!(38 posts)

Lance does it again!vram
Jun 26, 2001 9:34 AM
Lance not only wins the uphill time-trial at the Swiss tour but also takes the yellow jersey and leads the GC by one minute. Tyler Hamilton comes in third, edged out by half-a-second by Simoni. Lance looks all set for the Tour.

1 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal Service 47.18.84
2 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Lampre-Daikin 1.25.83
3 Tyler Hamilton (USA) US Postal Service 1.26.17
4 Georg Totschnig (Aut) Gerolsteiner 1.33.10
5 Wladimir Belli (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 1.58.59
6 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) Team Deutsche Telekom 2.03.53
7 Daniel Atienza Urendez (Spa) Cofidis 2.17.45
8 Stefano Garzelli (Ita) Mapei-Quick Step 2.39.75
9 Beat Zberg (Swi) Rabobank 2.40.46
10 Steve Zampieri (Swi) Post Swiss Team 2.47.06
11 Laurent Jalabert (Fra) CSC-World Online 2.51.87
surprising: "The good news is we have the jersey,..."Haiku d'état
Jun 26, 2001 9:50 AM
"The good news is we have the jersey, the better news is we have a super team to defend it."
We? Are you a member of the Postal team?J.S.
Jun 26, 2001 9:57 AM
Cycling is not an U.S. against the world sport. In case you didn't notice there are alot of "foreigners" on USPS.
Maybe you should think before you write . . .DCW
Jun 26, 2001 10:16 AM
It's a quote from the USPS team.
I'm supposed to know this how? The quotation marks?J.S.
Jun 26, 2001 10:45 AM
He could be quoting a mouse in his pocket. In a situation like this it might be wise to attribute the quote to someone. Maybe I did jump the gun a bit, but after reading all the anti-Kevin Livingston crap on the net, where nationalistic knuckleheads verbally assault him for "betraying our team"(a quote from another message board by an anti-Kevin guy) I think I can be excused.
It's Lance talking . . . as quoted on his website.DCW
Jun 26, 2001 10:24 AM
This just inLazy
Jun 26, 2001 10:35 AM
SWITZERLAND-- The United States Postal Service cycling team has named American cyclist Jeffery Harris to the team. The spot on the team was opened up when two time Tour de France champion Lance Armstrong decided he needed someone to chronicle his racing exploits in Haiku format. Harris will not be issued a Trek bicycle and will have to ride his Bianchi.
Harris is quoted as saying, "I can ride real fast, maybe faster than Lance does. Maillot Jaune for me!"
Pearl Izumi, the USPS clothing supplier is rumoured to be creating a new cycling jersey with pockets on the front for Mr. Harris' pen and paper. Top officials from the clothing manufacturer plan to market the new jersey to vacationers. "The pockets on the front will make it easier for theme park visitors to go on the rides," said one member of the R & D team.

:-D lol
Oh My G0D, I just soiled my pants from laughing so hard nmseth1
Jun 26, 2001 10:42 AM
Me, too!! LOL big time - thanks, Lazy! (nm)RhodyRider
Jun 26, 2001 10:45 AM
holy crap! i can't believe you guys...Haiku d'état
Jun 26, 2001 11:55 AM
man, i go out for lunch for just a few minutes and you guys are all over me!

but, the good news is that lazy has the inside track and the news is true. they're going to retrofit my bianchi with handbuilt, lightweight german wheels, d/a pedals, upgrade my 105 triple to ultegra triple (crank only!), and scale it down from a 57 to a 56 so i can have the euro-pro look. how they're going to take 1 cm off my bike is a usps team trade secret, they wouldn't tell me. and--you're misinformed about the pad/pencil. i'll be connected by voice-activated radio to a computerized vocal translator in the team car that'll take dictation while i spew verse. i'll use the front pockets for moon pies instead.

there won't be a profile on the site since i'm to be a stealth member of the team. i'll trust you guys to keep it between us. if telecom finds out, i'll know who leaked it.

haiku to follow...later.
jeffreyh -- climbing Lookout Mt? nm12x23
Jun 26, 2001 4:10 PM
no--i WALKED up lookout mt.; this would have been sand mt. NMHaiku d'état
Jun 27, 2001 7:10 AM
don't say you weren't warned.Haiku d'état
Jun 26, 2001 12:21 PM
lance, please slow WAY down
high average speed

hamilton, heras
lance's lieutenants this year
i'll draft the team car

not on postal trek
how to tell i'm on the team?
pin on my seatpack

not just haiku poet
my other job on the squad
deliver moon pies

in the team time trial
i'll be pulling at the front
the line at starbucks

postal bianchi
can i still use my clinchers,
and CO2 pump?

riding a giro
in the TDF prologue
may be a faux pas

maybe since i'm pro
discount on elite cages

my team radio
connected to stereo
the new tool CD

sticking out my thumb
the base of l'alpe d'huez
can i get a lift?

what are the chances
the UCI would bend rules
lance and me: tandem?
Sweet!! - Nice Job (nm)DoubleK
Jun 26, 2001 12:52 PM
Great work, JH! (And Lazy for all that creativity!)boy nigel
Jun 27, 2001 7:43 AM
Thanks, guys.

Your bike haiku is unparalleled, Jeff. Good work; dug the pic of you in yellow as well. And as for the Tool CD: Excellent choice.

I know the pieces fit.

Will the jerseys be available by next Saturday? (nm)E3
Jun 27, 2001 7:01 AM
sorry: only available to USPS pro haiku poets. try ebay. NMHaiku d'état
Jun 27, 2001 7:11 AM
As expected, but Simoni!mr_spin
Jun 26, 2001 9:52 AM
What a great year he is having! Looks like following the Lance Armstrong training program is really paying off.
Explain that...Bruno S
Jun 26, 2001 10:01 AM
Is Simoni being trained by the same people that Armstrong?
Explain that...mr_spin
Jun 26, 2001 10:16 AM
No. I don't think there is any direct association. But he did model his training this year after Lance's preparation for the tour, which he said he admired. Basically he applied the same training principles and goals that Lance does. Simoni used to be a pure climber, but by greatly improving his time trialing this year, he has become better all around.
Simoni is a great riderpeloton
Jun 26, 2001 10:19 AM
Classy guy too. Not a trash talker at all. He actually refused his pay at one point when he said that his results didn't justify it.
you are right...vram
Jun 26, 2001 10:15 AM
Simoni is surprising the world with his TT ability just like Lance did in the 1999 tour. Simoni is really shaping up to be an all-round rider in the mold of Lance. Does anyone know how old Simoni is?

If he keeps this up, he can be a serious contender for the Tour next year. Although he is showing good form that he has maintained since the Giro, I doubt Simoni will be able to sustain his current form during the last two weeks of this year's Tour. That's if he decides to ride the Tour.
you are right...mmaggi
Jun 26, 2001 11:03 AM
On August 25, Gilberto Simoni will be 30 years old.

Simoni is a pure climber. His climbs in the last 3 years of the Giro were epic. Remember that before winning this year's Giro, finished in 3rd the 2 previous years.

He's a better climber than Lance Armstrong, but not as good in TT. But his TT performances lately are nothing to sneeze at. IMO, he's probably behind Armstrong and Ullrich in TT ability.

That says alot because last season he wasn't among the best time trialers in the world and now he is.

I still don't know if he's going to the Tour. I know he was discussing it after his Giro win with Lampre-Daikin team directors and with Maurizio Fondriest. My guess is yes.
A preview of the tour?grandemamou
Jun 26, 2001 6:47 PM
He's only a minute or so down. I for one hope to see a competitive race. I want Lance to win but I would hate to see him put 4-5 mins on the field in the first week and have to watch every one else race for 2nd.
Here's the full story...vram
Jun 26, 2001 9:57 AM
Like I said, a Tour preview todayElefantino
Jun 26, 2001 10:03 AM
Lance is Lance. We all knew what he was going to do in the TT. What's exciting is that TH looks to be back in form, in a big way, after his layoff. And this isn't even the full Postie team, remember. Wait until they (I almost said "we") get Heras, too.
Yes, it's a team sport.
Check out for Graham Watson's post-ride comment and photos as soon as it's posted.
Be like Lance - you wish:Dog
Jun 26, 2001 10:08 AM
Be like Lance - you wish:
Ever wondered what kind of numbers the boy can generate? Lance's coach, Chris Carmichael sent us these key stats for LA:

Resting heart rate: 32-34
VO2ml/kg: 83.8
Max power at VO2: 600 watts
Max heart rate: 201
Lactate Threshold HR: 178
Time Trial HR: 188-192
Pedal rpm's during TT: 95-100
Climbing rpm's: 80-85, sometimes faster when attacking
Average HR during endurance rides (4-6 hrs): 124-128
Average watts during endurance rides: 245-280 watts
Training miles/hours, endurance rides: 5- 6 hrs / 100-130miles


How does he compareCima Coppi
Jun 26, 2001 10:17 AM

Any idea how these stats compair with the other great pro cyclists like Indurain, Lemond, Ulrich, Olano, etc??
Indurain rest rate: 28 (nm) if I remembercorrectly
Jun 26, 2001 10:34 AM
Indurain rest rate: 28 (nm) if I rememberJofa
Jun 26, 2001 11:42 AM
I seem to remember '150bpm down to 50 in 30 seconds' too... though my poor memory may have made that up: there was an article in one of the bike mags years ago ('95-ish) that had all Mig's vital stats respective to Merkcx, Hinault, Anquetil etc... sort of like Top Trumps for bike nerds. That info must be hoarded on the net somewhere...
Indurain rest rate: 28 (nm) if I rememberAD14
Jun 26, 2001 12:24 PM
Supposedly it was as low as 25 at times-nearly dead.
Be like Lance - you wish:MeDotOrg
Jun 26, 2001 11:33 AM
...there is some confusion here. My lactate threshold is when I'm not resting ;-)

I wonder how much DNA we have in common?
I want my mommy.bill
Jun 26, 2001 2:46 PM
That is really, really frightening.
Be like Lance - you wish:cycleguy
Jun 27, 2001 7:41 AM
Anyone can put up great numbers, but can he ride!?!
Jun 26, 2001 10:12 AM
What was the road gradient?9WorCP
Jun 26, 2001 11:42 AM
I'm sorry I forgot the simple formula. I know it was 15 km of climbing rising 1,000 meters. He averaged almost 20 mph! That's nuts.
The grade is 6.667%, average (nm)Cima Coppi
Jun 26, 2001 11:55 AM
Comparative numbersJon Billheimer
Jun 26, 2001 4:08 PM
If I remember correctly, Indurain's VO2 max was 86ml/kg. Doug, are you sure that 600 watts isn't Lance's power output at lactate threshold? Again, from memory, when Indurain was tested once at McGill University, they eventually discontinued a power test because, as they said, he could push 550 watts indefinitely. Reportedly he broke every cycling performance record that had been established in that lab. I wouldn't be surprised if Armstrong's aerobic power output isn't marginally higher than Indurain's. For sure his power per kg. of bodyweight is.