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Screwy spoke lacing...(4 posts)

Screwy spoke lacing...GregR
Jun 24, 2001 9:39 PM
I saw a rear wheel (regular campy hub and rim, DT spokes, 3x lacing) that had the non-drive side spokes ALL laced on one side of the hub flange 3X-heads in. Yes, all the spokes were heads-in on the non-drive side, and it was not radial.....

The drive side was normal, as was the front wheel (32hole 3x).

It did not look very easy to lace, but maybe there is some goofy reason behind it....

re: Screwy spoke lacing...gust-of-sun
Jun 25, 2001 6:53 AM
I saw that on a stock campy chorus wheel, brand new from the campy factory. We scratched our heads about it down at the shop, but couldn't figure out any good reason for it. maybe somebody should call campy and report.

Old Shimano spoke/hub theoryCalvin Jones-Park Tool
Jun 25, 2001 7:12 AM
Spoke lacing patterns can be fun. That may be enough of a reason to do different things. The pattern I think you are describing is also done on BMX wheels. It will put a pretty good bend in the spoke as they cross over each other. If they did it with heads outside, not inside, it would actually make the non-drive side tenision higher, which could be argured (over a glass of beer) that this would help overall wheel strength. Having the drive/non-drive closer in tension is usually considered a good thing.

Shimano in the 1980's had their Dura-Ace hub machined so all the elbows were outside, with heads inside. There was a pocket machined in the flange to allow the spokes to lay flat. It worked! By this I mean, you laced spokes, trued the wheel, and rode the bike. The bike moved forward. It was so sucessful...that you never have seen it again.
where'd you see it?climbo
Jun 25, 2001 11:38 AM
that's funny, I just had a Campy Chorus wheel delivered to me with exactly that pattern. It was built by Winkle Wheels who have done it this way for pros for many years for extra strength (I presume lateral) in the wheel. That's what I heard, don't know exactly why but this is what Oschner told my team manager. It looks funky but it works so far.