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ti or carbon frame?(9 posts)

ti or carbon frame?briss
Jun 24, 2001 5:58 PM
I'm looking for a new frame. I have demoed both but not much milage on either. I'm looking for pros and cons on both if anyone can advise.I currently am riding a C-Dale CAD4 and it's beating the hell out of me on long rides.
re: ti or carbon frame?Elefantino
Jun 24, 2001 6:37 PM
After two back surgeries, I went with carbon (Trek 5200). I had steel before, and there is no comparison. On long rides (60+) I never feel it at the end like I used to. The racing LBS tried to talk me out of Trek (sold by arch competitor LBS) and into ti or CAAD 4 when they found out I was willing to spend the money, they told me my Trek frame wouldn't last two years, that I'd regret it, that serious cyclists would never ride carbon (conveniently forgetting Lance and everyone who rides C-40s). It's been 27 months and my Trek rides as it did the day I got it. And, by the way — I don't go to that shop anymore.
It's not the material!Kerry Irons
Jun 24, 2001 6:45 PM
The frame design determines the ride, not the frame material. You need to seek out the design philosophy of the manufacturer (regardless of material) and then determine which bikes suit your desires. And even then, I bet your 'Dale would be a whole lot more comfortable if you just went up to the next tire size and dropped a few PSI. You won't notice a change in rolling friction, but your ride will be a lot more pleasant.
agree (nm)Hank
Jun 24, 2001 11:00 PM
nm
you are right about tires and pressurejohnrg
Jun 24, 2001 11:02 PM
I have fragments of a ruptured disc from going over the bars a year ago and so have done all I can to be comfortable. One is Axial Pro 25's w/90-95 lbs. pressure.
I second that! (nm)vram
Jun 24, 2001 11:26 PM
But sometimes it is the material.Ian
Jun 25, 2001 6:18 PM
I will admit that aluminum has come a long way, and the CADD 6 I took a spin on was a wonderful bike. But, it would be very, very hard to give an aluminum bike the lively ride of steel or titanium. That is just a property of those two metals and not of aluminum. And it would be very, very hard to make any material absorb the road shock the way an OCLV does. I will admit that design is very important, but so is the material.
Either...MrCelloBoy
Jun 25, 2001 8:55 AM
will provide a more shock absorbing ride, in my experience, than most Aluminum. I find carbon deadens the road shock while Ti has a slightly more springy feel.
Neither (maybe)Mass Biker
Jun 25, 2001 9:18 AM
How about steel? Lively, strong, stiff as it needs to be, and light enough. Plenty tough for the rough and tumble world of daily training/weekly racing. Plenty refined for the long stuff. Worth checking out.

MB