|Comments please on Tommasini Sintesi...||russ g|
Jun 21, 2001 6:54 AM
|Checked out Colorado cyclist.com and found this beautiful steel bike equiped with ultegra for $1,695 and weighing under 20lbs. Does anyone have any experience with this bike? How would it compare to say the bianchi veloce? |
|re: Comments please on Tommasini Sintesi...||Jacob|
Jun 21, 2001 7:08 AM
|Defenitely go with bianchi. there is too much steel in that bike get it if you plan to upgrade the fork but if you don't for that much cash you could get a bianchi that already has a carbon fork probably for cheaper plus they have a much better warranty and are totally mainstreem.|
|re: Comments please on Tommasini Sintesi...||tulio|
Jun 21, 2001 7:53 AM
|I'd consider this a nice "entry level" bike (despite the brand s components). But, there will be follow ups that just rave about these like they were the best thing since sliced bread.|
|re: Comments please on Tommasini Sintesi...||Turtleherder|
Jun 21, 2001 9:10 AM
|I will start the rave reviews. First, I actually own one, picked it up last year. Nice seeing reviews from people who don't own and have ever seen one in person. This bike is definitely not entry level. Sure, it's not a top of the line Colnago or Litespeed, but it's not entry level. I bought it because I wanted a reasonably light steel bike. Mine weighs a hair under 19 pounds. The ride is supurb and the handling is lightning fast. It is the best descending bike I have owned, 45 mph switch backs are a piece of cake, total confidence in the bike. It reacts right now to imput from the pedals and does not flex one bit. The finish and paint are beautiful. I have had more compliments on this bike than any other I have owned. Now, what doesn't it do very well? I have had trouble with the chromed horizontal drop-outs. The rear wheel kept torquing over. I fixed it by replacing the stock skewers with Dura-ace, problem solved. The fork is rather heavy at 650 grams, but it handles great and it sure does look good. Even if you decide to replace the fork it still comes in around $2,000.00 for a beautiful, new steel, Italian bike.|
|re: Comments please on Tommasini Sintesi...||VaMootsman|
Jun 21, 2001 9:45 AM
|I disagree, I would take most any Tommasini over most any Colnago and certainly over any Litespeed. No need to defend your machine, it's a smart purchase.|
|Yeah, wait till Dave checks in.||9WorCP|
Jun 21, 2001 10:21 AM
|He owned the Sintesi and upgraded to a Colnago C-40. He loves his 'nago but said the Sintesi compared favorably in performance. It's a great bike. The guy above says his weighs about 19 lbs with the steel fork. What's it going to weigh when you upgrade to a carbon fork? Why even do that? The chrome fork is beautiful, unique and stiff. This is an $8-900 dollar frame and CC will spec it out for cheap. Nothing wrong with a bargain.
I spent 4 months researching bikes last year before settling on the Sintesi. I love the ride and I love looking at it w/ no regrets. When the OWNERS start checking in you'll see how well-liked a bike can get. Anything you wanna know just ask.
There are a lot of fine bikes in your price range. I liked the TCR-1, the Zurich and Fuji Team as well. The Marin Argenta is nice and so is (was) the Bianchi Daytona (campy) and Alloro (Shimano). It's tough to pick a bike you can't ride first. Look around, but I fell for the "old world" styling and ride of the Sintesi.
|dave (now C-40) checking in...||C-40|
Jun 21, 2001 4:34 PM
|You've pretty much summed up my thoughts. The Sintesi is a real steal. Can't think of anything in the price range that I'd rather have. Although I now ride a C-40 (which I really like), I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Sintesi. The only place the C-40 outshines an all steel bike is shock absorption. Gravel-sealed roads are smoother on the C-40. A carbon fork would probably improve the Sintesi's ride a bit on this type of surface.
You just have to put Campy 10 speed on a Sintesi. With a Chorus group it's $2100.
Having owned both a "heavy" steel Sintesi and now a "very light" C-40, I can guarantee you that I could never measure the difference in riding speeds between the two. If identically equipped, there is only 2 lbs. diffrence in weight. The Sintesi frame and fork will weigh in at about 5.3 lbs and the C-40 weighs about 3.2 lbs. This difference is only about 1.2% of the average bike & rider weight. I don't think anyone can actually feel this small weight difference.
|I admire your honesty.||Curtis E. Bear|
Jun 21, 2001 9:37 PM
|I have a Tommasini steel frame which I love. The chrome is superior to Colnago. The paint is excellent as well. Nothing rides like a Tommasini. The only alternative I would consider would be the Moser Pro Evo. It has similar geometry and weight.|
|Comparing to aluminum, does the bike accelerate equally?...||russ g|
Jun 21, 2001 10:43 AM
|I was almost set on purchasing a C'dale R600 or Bianchi Giro. I guess I like the quickness of these but this is only from parkinglot test rides. Do you feel the same acceleration on this bike or at least close to the same as these aluminums? And the ride I'm assuming will be a little more forgiving at the end of the day right? Thanks for your help, wish this bike was in town for me to ride and see it. |
|Reply number 2||Turtleherder|
Jun 21, 2001 1:40 PM
|In my first reply I really was not trying to defend the purchase. I know what I bought and how it stacks up against other bikes. Just trying to be realistic and not just gush about the wonders of the bike. The reference to the fork was for the weight weenie crowd. Yes, it is possible to shave 3/4 of a pound off the bike if that is what gets you off. Personally, if I watch what I eat for four days I can take care of the same amount of weight. As to the comparison to aluminum I think it jumps just as quick as my Cannondale, but rides much more smoothly and descends better. All in all I have no regrets and believe that it is one of the best buys around.|
|Comparing to aluminum, does the bike accelerate equally?...||Hank|
Jun 21, 2001 5:16 PM
|here's a pretty good Keith Bontrager rant on the topic:
anyway, if the fit is right, I would definitely take the Tommasini over the other bikes you're looking at.
|re: Comments please on Tommasini Sintesi...||TommyBoy|
Jun 21, 2001 10:25 AM
|A classic stell frame with a nice "steel" fork. Carbon fiber is not the "end-all, be-all" of cycling. They are both nice bikes, but the Tomassini frame is built much better. I love Bianchi's, but have heard (from an LBS who sells them) that there lower end frames have suspect quality.
My 2 cents!
|re: Comments please on Tommasini Sintesi...||ststein|
Jun 21, 2001 10:33 AM
|The Veloce will be a good bit heavier also. I rode one for 7 years (and still have it as a commuter/bad weather bike). It was reliable, and a great bike to learn on. But, the weight along with the clumsy Veloce group finally got to me and I upgraded to a custom this year. The Sentesi was on my list though. A great deal for the price. Good luck.|
|7-yr old Veloce (frame and bits) aren't the same as 2001||nm|
Jun 21, 2001 10:38 AM
|re: Comments please on Tommasini Sintesi...||Pestony|
Jun 22, 2001 12:06 PM
|I had one about 2 years ago (52cm and really nice paint and lug workactually I still have it but it is sitting in my basement where it can't hurt anyone). I replaced it though because it was the most unstable bike I have ever ridden on. I tried new wheels, had the alignment checked etc, but it was a terror to ride over 35 mph. This is quite in opposition to the other comments posted which praise it's stability, but you asked.|
|re: Comments please on Tommasini Sintesi...||My2Cents|
Jun 22, 2001 9:50 PM
|I was considering purchasing one from Colorado Cyclist about a year ago when they were selling for around $1500. However, the Colorado Cyclist people talked me out of the purchase after they said my 6'2", 185# body would cause the Sintesi to flex too much. Too bad, I really thought it was a beautiful bike.|| |