|Dogs and Cycling don't go together||Cannon|
Jun 16, 2001 8:25 PM
|I am sure a lot of us have had run in with big dogs before. But today was the worst one I have ever had. I was about 70 miles into my first century ride and suddenly a dog came out of the bushes, big dog 150 lbs would be a good guess. Next thing I know I am sliding down the road at 20 mph. This is not a good feeling, But thank god I was where my cycling gloves other wise my hands would be toast! My bike faired a little better than I did, but is still needs lots of repairs before saturdays Triathlon. Lucky the guy that owns the dog was a nice guy and is paying to get my bike fixed, like he even had a choice. Now I would like to hear everyone elses storys, please share.|
|This is why I own a cat!!!||Cima Coppi|
Jun 16, 2001 10:33 PM
Jun 16, 2001 10:34 PM
|And they stay indoors!|
|re: Dogs and Cycling don't go together||Akirasho|
Jun 17, 2001 6:20 AM
|Worst experience (though not nearly as bad as yours) was nearly being flanked by a couple of St. Bernard mixes (one seemingly friendly... the other NOT) on back country roads... in my case, I inched along (using the bike as a shield and a hedge to keep them from flanking me) for about 10 minutes till a child who probably weighed half as much as the smaller dog... came and got them... no adult ever appeared though I can't imagine that they were not inside the farm house...
Glad to hear you fared well though... oh, and I've heard horror stories about cats and trainers/rollers (my cat is too fat and lazy to fool with spinning wheels).
Be the bike.
|Cats vs. Rollers||Cima Coppi|
Jun 18, 2001 8:07 AM
|I'd be curious to hear one of those horror stories about cats and rollers. My two cats hate the sound the rollers make, so they stay out of the room while I ride. |
Happy Riding All
|re: Dogs and Cycling don't go together||rodemiles|
Jun 17, 2001 7:38 AM
|Early in my cycling career I was chomped by a German Shepherd while climbing a steep hill. I immediately turned around and pursued the dog into his yard, a big mistake. He turned on me and was going to do some serious damage to me until a kid came out and grabbed him. I left and called the owner that night. I asked if he was current on his shots; her response was "oh yes, he's bit a lot of people and no one has ever had any trouble from his bites". I realized I was dealing with idiots and decided to go pro-active with my defense. I found that numb chucks fit perfectly in my back jersey pocket. I then scheduled a re-match with old "Lobo" and rang his chimes. The first week I carried the chucks I settled a lot of scores with nuisance dogs. Nowadays, traffic is so heavy that no dog can survive running out into the streets. Makes me long for the old days when dogs were the most serious problem with riding.|
|Wrong - Dog Owners, not dogs||climbo|
Jun 17, 2001 8:20 AM
|it's the owner's fault, not the dog. I have ridden with my own dog (trails) many, many times and it's fine with a trained animal. He is also trained not to attack everything that moves, like bikes, cars, lawn mowers which are the usual targets for dogs. I hate unresponsible owners who can't control animals like in your case. I did hear of a story on a board a while back where a great dane ran out after a cyclist and a car came the other way at 50mph and slammed the dog side on and threw it up on the the sidewalk where the kids who's family owned the dog were playing. I think the kids would have gone in to shock immediately.|
|Dogs, Cycling and Pork Chops||Car Magnet|
Jun 17, 2001 9:19 AM
|This topic makes me think of a scene in "Kickboxer", When Master Xiang tells Jean-Claude Van Clams a pork chop will make him run faster. He ties the pork chop to his thigh and calls to his German Sheppard, which proceeds to chase the hell out him. Just think how many of us would explode into a Cippolini-like sprint with that kind of training. |
The most important thing with dogs is to keep your head on straight and stay cool. I know it's hard when Marmaduke or Cujo come a runnin' but freakin' out is the worst thing you can do.
Well I'm glad that you and your bike are okay and hope you do well in your brick.
|and with a swift kick..||Groucho Marx|
Jun 17, 2001 4:28 PM
|A Giraffe can kill a lion with one swift kick to the head. I'm sure that with our massive and powerfull legs we could smash that dog through the ground.
Or maybe they could create an "offensive cleat". You know: a cleat with small spikes laces with poison or something, or something.
A Fog horn would also be kinda cool.
or poke a hole in your CO2 cartridge and watch it fly.
One time, I was approaching a red light in the country somewhere, and out from some bushes came running three angry looking dogs. I had a choice. Try and sprint through the cars zooming across the intersection, or fight the dogs. Luckily for me a jeep pull up and I quickly got on the other side of it, keeping it between me and dogs untill the lights changed. Glad I didn't have to make that decision.
In an unrelated incident, once, when I was started cycling, I was chased by a bloodhound for a good 5 k, up a gentle slope.
I guess mace is probably the best way to deal with dogs. Man would I load that dog's eyes full of mace. Not so much to hurt the dog, but to see the outraged look on the stupid owners face who can't control him.
Jun 18, 2001 3:17 AM
|faced with an instinctive response from an animal, react with fear and aggression. Kill the animal, tame the wilderness, despoil the planet. Better to stop, no chase no fun. Better to confront keeper of dog which is being endangered by their lack of responsibility, and lobby for laws against stupid owners.
If you look and behave like a prey animal you have to live with the consequences.
|Is it anual dog story time?||cyclopathic|
Jun 17, 2001 4:54 PM
|I have words of wisdom: full length frame pump, keep it handy
this is advise from guy who used to live in NYC. He sharpened his and claimed he poked 3 dogs with it. I'd say hitting should be OK too.
I've seen bike messanger with baseball bet attached to fork, hmm..
Other defense tactics:
squirt water at dog /never thought of but seems to be fairly effective/. I have seen guys use it.
Scream: Sit! works on trained dogs.
Peper spray would work too, keep it in handy.
And my personal favorite barking. Saved me twice in last month. Not that it stops dogs completely, but it confuses a hell out of them. I was attached by dog 3 weeks ago (darn I was going at least 25mph and he made me look stand still). Usually dogs who bark or wag tail are not gonna bite, no this one (Shepard guestimate ~120lbs) was going for blood completely silent. I was so pumped up at that point that if he'd bite me I swear I'd get off the bike and kill that SOB. I don't know how that happened I growled and barked at him, it came from inside and it made him stop
If you have to get off the bike put bike between you and dog.
If you've been bitten by dog /can't disagree this is owner, not dog/ call county animal service and have them go after owner.
Now if all above would work on rednecks..
|Anyone ever try bear spray?||Lazy|
Jun 18, 2001 8:19 AM
|I've never used the stuff, but from what I hear, bear spray will shoot a pretty concentrated stream of unpleasant stuff a distance of 15 feet or so. No permanent damage, but it'll give them a snoot of unpleasantness. IIRC, the guy who was telling me about it said it's bright orange too so you'd get some comic relief too. Can you imagine, a snarling dog one minute and a whimpering puppy with an international orange head the next.
Maybe I'll beebop on over to outdoor review.com and see what those folks have to say.
|Long story made short:||4bykn|
Jun 17, 2001 6:24 PM
|One dog (Boston terrier of all things, named "Lucky) plus 4bykn at 94.6 miles of a century equals.....73 days in the hospital in traction with a broken pelvis. Permanent limp...arthritis...but the good news, I can still ride!|
|Long story made short:||Cannon|
Jun 17, 2001 6:52 PM
|I guess I was really lucky, glad you can still ride!|
|Another Long Story Made Short||PsyDoc|
Jun 18, 2001 7:32 AM
|65-70 lab mix comes out from behind a bush at the road and was very pissed. I had no time to react and ended up with a broken collar bone and fratured pelvis...bike was pretty much fine.|| |