|Spending to much $$$ ??||-Pulsar|
Jun 2, 2001 7:55 PM
|I'm 18 years old, have been MTB'in for the last 3 years or so and am looking at buying a road bike; Trek 5200(D) w/ Rolf Vector Pro's. The set-up is gonna cost me about $4000 Canadian Dollars (approx. 2700 USD). I'm serious about biking in general and racing in the future. However the price tag is just a little hard to explain to the parents! However I always think interms of buying quailty the first time round and not regretting it later. Does anyone else think that way???? , my friends tell me I'm crazy for wanting to spend so much.
I guess what I need is reasureance that I'm forking out the money for the right reason (getting good stuff the first time round).
PS. I'm not a Lance Armstrong wannabe!..
Jun 2, 2001 8:29 PM
|or are your parents paying for it? In that case, maybe it doesn't matter...
If you're an mtber and hard on your equipment and plan to race, I'd look into getting a nice steel frame and built it up with Ultegra or something - you should be able to get something really nice for around $1500. Those OCLVs are pretty fragile. It's a great race bike for a sponsored rider, or a great bike for someone who has a lot of money or doesn't ride much or has lots of bikes, but I don't think it's so hot for an 18 year old who is going to be putting some serious miles in and racing. Just my opinion (but I worked at Trek shops for a long time and saw the many non-warranty ways a OCLV can break).
Jun 2, 2001 8:38 PM
|No i'll be paying for it, I have a job that makes me good money. Money is not an issue, the issue is spending it. $4000 is $4000 no matter how much you make! Am I right?
But I'm one of those "get the best equiptment you can" type of guy, I'm sure you know the type =)!
Thanks for your comment!
Jun 2, 2001 9:12 PM
|I'm not certain of canadian pricing but the trek 5200 sells for a good bit less than the 2700 american you're paying. Usually goes for about 2100 give or take depending on area or the dealer. The extra 600 is just about every accesory you could possibly need. Check out some of the shops in you're area for better prices and what comes with it. Also make sure you get your exact size at that price. If it's what you want go for it but remember a 5200 is durable but no mtb. Good luck. TTFN|
Jun 3, 2001 12:34 PM
|when I was 18 I was working in bike shops and racing in college. I got the best (at that time it was a steel Italian frame with Record) but obviously didn't have to pay full pop for it. Anyway, I don't have that bike anymore (soon after I discovered US builders), but 14 years later I still have one I bought when I was 19 (Bontrager cross bike also with Record) and one I bought when I was 20 (custom steel with Dura Ace). Both those bikes have over 50 thousand miles on them and I wouldn't trade either of them for anything. Anyway, make sure you get a bike that fits you (Treks come in 2cm incriments - none of their bikes fit me--the 56 is too small and the 58 is too big), and I'd really look at the long-term durability issue. Depending on how long you plan to be in school and what happens to you in the future, you might not be able to afford another top quality bike for a while (I'm glad I got those bikes when I did--now I'm tied down with car expenses and mortgage payments). If it's your money you shouldn't have to explain it to anyone. Good luck.|
|I agree with Hank||bianchi boy|
Jun 3, 2001 6:52 PM
|For $2,000 US, you could buy a quality steel frame with full Campy Chorus group and comparable wheels, etc., or the same deal with Ultegra for about $1,500. A steel frame will last forever if you just clean the sweat off it (so it doesn't rust) and you can't find a more comfortable ride. Check out www.gvhbikes.com and see what you can get. He's got a huge selection of frames and can build them up with any group you want. Or, if you just want to spend $4,000, get a custom steel frame from some place like Steelman, Waterford, Landshark, etc. It would be nearly as light as the OCLV and should fit like a glove.|
|re: Spending to much $$$ ??||STEELYeyed|
Jun 2, 2001 8:42 PM
|If you are 18 and its your money that you earned honestly,buy what you want,but you could get a good bike that is race worthy for half as much money and put the rest into college,just in case the racing thing doesn't work out,road racing is about 95% rider 5% bike, find a light,dependable machine and a resource for parts,if you are serious you almost need 2 identical bikes for parts interchange and back up.
|While my daddy's wisdom (buy it once) has only more resonance||bill|
Jun 4, 2001 11:44 AM
|with me as I get older, with bikes I think that there are a few other considerations. Until you are well-versed in road biking and road racing, it is hard to weigh all of the variables that go into a $4,000 decision like a "best bike." You may think that you bought the right size, but your stance will change as you get more into it, and you may find out that a better size would be a little longer in the top tube or something. Not that some of these variables necessarily kill a frame decision, but there are other variables that count as preferences, such as seat tube and head tube angles, fork rake, chain stay length, as well as ride characteristics that you now have little feel for but that, in two years, you would have done differently. The Trek 5200 is a cool bike and most everyone who owns one is happy with it, but I'm not sure that it's the right one for a novice road racer who could ill afford to wipe out his investment in one bad turn or, for that matter, for you, because you're not at all sure what you want (or need). |
If you look at a field of racers (other than sponsored pros) you don't see all that many highest-end anything. People seem to ride a lot of workhorse bikes that are light and either relatively easy to fix (steel) or easy to replace (alu). Relatively, of course.
I think that you should go with something else, myself. I'm not one to talk people out of getting the good stuff, because life is short, but this time I'm going the other way. The good stuff is relative, anyway, with modest increments of difference (decreasing in significance the higher in price you go) and you'll be working your bike hard. In two years, I'd say, different story. But, in two years, will you be able to get your money out of the bike? Or even close?
|re: Spending to much $$$ ??||Tommy-Boy|
Jun 4, 2001 11:46 AM
|I feel the same way about buying good stuff right off the bat. However, Carbon Fiber does not necessarily = "the best". I think you're blinded by the fact that many/most pro racers ride CF. Like someone said before, It's pretty fragile. If you toast it in a month, then you'll be really pi**ed. Check out good steel, like everyone else said, or aluminum, or even Ti. Find something you like, but don't be so narrow minded about only going with CF.|
|and, at 18, you still could be growing, dude. (The secret||bill|
Jun 4, 2001 12:08 PM
|message behind the message is that we all had to wait before buying the trick bike; you have to, too, dadgummit.)|
|Want a lecture from an 18-year-old's father?||cory|
Jun 4, 2001 12:32 PM
|No, I didn't think so...but you asked, so here it is:
It's too much money. You could get virtually equal performance for 50-60 percent of that, and have $2000 left over for travel expenses (to races, if you're serious about this) or, who knows, college or something. The time you don't have to spend earning that two grand could go to training, studying or having an actual life.
All the points the other posters mentioned seem valid to me. There's also a pretty good chance you're going to crash a lot, and you might as well crash a $2000 bike as a $4000 one. Steel will stand up better, I think, and it's not enough heavier that you'll finish 17th instead of first.
Realistically, too, there's virtually no chance you're going to make money as a racer (I know there are exceptions--my wife teaches at Wooster High School in Reno, where Greg Lemond went, and they all told him he was crazy to drop out to ride a bicycle). Nothing wrong with wasting a few years--I didn't graduate from college until I was 28--but try to temper it with reason and reality, too.
Jul 19, 2001 10:26 AM
|steal one|| |