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anybody use Innovations Second Wind pump/CO2 inflator?(13 posts)

anybody use Innovations Second Wind pump/CO2 inflator?Haiku d'état
May 29, 2001 12:59 PM
opinions?

how does the manual pump perform?

waste of money or time/lifesaver?

thanks!
re: anybody use Innovations Second Wind pump/CO2 inflator?peloton
May 29, 2001 3:04 PM
I have one that I keep with my mountain bike. The pump is low volume, and okay for mountain bike tires if you are in a pinch. To get a road tire up to adequate pressure though would require forearms the size of telephone poles, and a 24 hour time period of constant inflating. I like another model from Innovations that uses non-threaded co2 cartriges, and has a lever on top to control co2 flow for usage on the road. It is smaller to fit in my saddle bag too.
which model? thanks NMHaiku d'état
May 29, 2001 3:14 PM
not sure....peloton
May 29, 2001 3:42 PM
I've had it for a few years now. It has a black body that goes around the co2 cartrige, and that threads onto the head of the unit. The head of the unit has a presta attachment, and a lever to control flow of the co2. It all fits into the palm of your hand. It's real easy to use. Describe it at your shop, I have seen a few around. They should know the one. I'll try to think of the name.
ahem...one of these?Haiku d'état
May 29, 2001 3:49 PM
http://www.nashbar.com/results.cfm?category=106&subcategory=1073&storetype=&estoreid=&init=y
The Inflator (yellow one) nm :)peloton
May 29, 2001 3:52 PM
nm
thanks. one cartridge will fill a tire? NMHaiku d'état
May 29, 2001 3:54 PM
yup. I carry two just in case though nmpeloton
May 29, 2001 3:56 PM
nm
Innovations Ultraflate for $18 is the model...vram
May 29, 2001 8:14 PM
I have one and it works great. Since it takes both threaded and non-threaded catridges you can use the cheap Walmart airgun catridges that sell for less than a buck a piece.

The one you are interested in, is bigger in size and the pump is useful to fill the tire up some before topping off with the CO2 catridge. But I am not sure that it takes unthreaded (read cheap) catridges.

The cheap catridges are 12 gms and inflate a 700X23c tire to around 80 psi. The larger catridges inflate to 110+
Second Wind IHVlad the Impaler
May 29, 2001 8:38 PM
I have the one with the pump. It works great. It does take the cheap non-threaded cartridges. I pump tire to around 30 psi then use an entire non-threaded cart. Gets it right where I want it.
Yes, and it works greatMGS
May 29, 2001 5:45 PM
I've used one for two years. I typically use the hand pump to blow up the tube, seat it, and get initial tire seating.

It's probably useless other than to find a leak, or to get the tube seated on the rim.

Then I use the CO2 cartridge, 16 gram to inflate the tire to about 120lbs. The head allows a trigger inflation, a little at a time, to ensure that the bead is seated.

I like the system. Better than a mini-mini pump and CO2, which is another alternative.
re: anybody use Innovations Second Wind pump/CO2 inflator?fuzzybunnies
May 29, 2001 6:54 PM
I use it and like it, the hand pump version can get a tire up to about 75psi fairly quickly and easily just don't try for more, you won't make it. I've also had the older yellow version but I like the versatility of the second wind in case I'm riding with friends who don't always have pumps or I'm having a lousy day, only come in handy as a hand pump twice but that was 2 times I was very glad to have it. TTFN
thanks, all! decision...Haiku d'état
May 30, 2001 7:53 AM
decided to get the second wind, if it's still available at nashbar. good deal plus the option to pre-inflate for seating on the rim/checking for bulges before full inflation, seems to have all the features of the one peloton's using, plus the manual pump. granted, it's slightly larger, and the manual won't get you up to road pressure, but it's small enough that i can carry it on (gasp) my off-road adventures, as well.

your input is/was appreciated!

jeff