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Bicycle Self Defense Update(8 posts)

Bicycle Self Defense UpdateJohn R.
May 25, 2001 9:39 AM
To go along with my pepper-spray I just ordered a telescoping police baton which retracts to 7" and weighs only 9 oz. [my comments in brackets]:

ASP 21" Expandable Baton
The ASP Expandable Baton offers many important advantages over other intermediate force weapons.

Easily carried and readily at hand.[fits perfectly in jersey pocket]
Unparalleled psychological deterrence.[who would mess with a guy wearing a helmet and carrying a 21" steel rod?]
Low profile, improved public image.[we know cyclists need that]
Easily maintained.[probably a little White Lightning or Pedro's now and then]
No sharp edges that can abrade clothing [e.g. nylon and spandex] or cut an assailant.[less litigation risk]
Better balance than traditional impact weapons.[no need to dismount!]

Now I just hope I never have to use it!

John R.
re: Good Grief...going to ride? Or going to war? Good luck dude.WCC
May 25, 2001 10:03 AM
Oldest form of self defense know to bayou
May 25, 2001 11:21 AM
Stay out of trouble in the first place! Second oldest? Running. read: pedal harder. Work on your route selection and sprinting.

As far as tools go, if all else fails, use your frame pump.

BTW, people tend to use the tools they have to fix problems. I'm afraid you are looking for conflict, any condition to use your tool.

Lastly, don't HOPE you won't use it. DECIDE, right now, not to carry this weapon and decide now not to use it, ever.

If this seems not to be an option, give up biking and reduce your perception of being under the threat of attack.
Didn't Patton say something like...Underdog
May 25, 2001 12:20 PM
I'm not asking you to die for your contry. I'm asking you to make the other poor son of a bi+c# die for his. Can we just get along.
You ask: "Who would mess...seth1
May 25, 2001 7:20 PM
with a guy wearing a helmet and carrying a 21" steel rod?"

Answer: A road-raging 23 year-old with a half drank bottle of Southern Comfort and a .357 Magnum. That's who.
James Bond on a Litespeedmike mcmahon
May 25, 2001 7:28 PM
How about spiked hubs to flatten the tires of offending cars, a rear grease-slick system to cause trailing cars to spin out, and a plastic explosive device disguised as a water bottle? Dude, have you had enough really negative experiences to warrant all of this defensive/offensive devices? If so where do you ride? I want to avoid this place.
re: HFC man.....Jethro Notbodine
May 25, 2001 8:28 PM
What good do you think your pepper spray and 21" stick is against a redneck in a monster truck or a Hooligan with a 44 magnum? Youre just askin to get kilt if you pull that sissy stuff. Get a grip man!There is always some a$$hole with a bigger cannon,and you don't know which one it is.
Do you have training?Cartman
May 25, 2001 8:37 PM
I know that it doesn't take too much know how to swing a baton, but do you know where to strike? Be careful that you don't go smacking some guy in the head and possibly using "leathal force" unless it is waranted. Remember, you are using it to defend yourself, not to inflict "street corner justice". I would recomend at least you read through some training materials, possibly practice a bit, and always keep in the back of your mind that you may well be criminally charged if you use it. On a side note, it will probably be great defense against dogs!